Proposal “dash-marketing-hub-integrations-bounty“ (Completed)Back
| Title: | Dash Marketing Hub Integrations Bounty |
| Owner: | the_desert_lynx |
| Monthly amount: | 50 DASH (1435 USD) |
| Completed payments: | 4 totaling in 200 DASH (0 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2023-06-11 / 2023-10-09 (added on 2023-06-06) |
| Votes: | 608 Yes / 112 No / 11 Abstain |
Proposal description
This proposal is for the creation of a separate fund exclusively to pay bounties for successfully integrating Dash into essential services, businesses, apps, etc.
Network effects are a critical element of success as a medium of exchange. We’ve seen Litecoin pull ahead in the digital cash race recently thanks to its near-ubiquitous adoption as a Bitcoin alternative. If Dash hopes to succeed it must similarly be as universally usable for payments as possible, and we need more integrations for that to happen. Additionally, Dash’s best current feature, its instant transactions, is severely under-utilized at the moment, as few services accept Dash payments as instantly final.
Dash Core Group is running on an extremely limited budget and does not have the capacity for sufficient business development activity at the moment. Community members such as BlockChainTech have stepped forward and pursued Dash integrations into key services, as well as negotiated InstantSend/ChainLocks, but without additional resources and incentives we are missing out on potentially many more wins. We believe that a simple bounty system can maximize our capacity here without the funding requirements of additional full- or part-time employees.
We are requesting 50 Dash per month with a cap of 200 Dash total for the fund. We will only put in additional proposals if the fund drops below a 50 Dash balance.
Additionally, we encourage the creation of a Hub/Incubator fork dedicated to integration bounties and business development. If such a project is launched, we would be happy to transfer this fund’s remaining balance to the new DFO.
Network effects are a critical element of success as a medium of exchange. We’ve seen Litecoin pull ahead in the digital cash race recently thanks to its near-ubiquitous adoption as a Bitcoin alternative. If Dash hopes to succeed it must similarly be as universally usable for payments as possible, and we need more integrations for that to happen. Additionally, Dash’s best current feature, its instant transactions, is severely under-utilized at the moment, as few services accept Dash payments as instantly final.
Dash Core Group is running on an extremely limited budget and does not have the capacity for sufficient business development activity at the moment. Community members such as BlockChainTech have stepped forward and pursued Dash integrations into key services, as well as negotiated InstantSend/ChainLocks, but without additional resources and incentives we are missing out on potentially many more wins. We believe that a simple bounty system can maximize our capacity here without the funding requirements of additional full- or part-time employees.
We are requesting 50 Dash per month with a cap of 200 Dash total for the fund. We will only put in additional proposals if the fund drops below a 50 Dash balance.
Additionally, we encourage the creation of a Hub/Incubator fork dedicated to integration bounties and business development. If such a project is launched, we would be happy to transfer this fund’s remaining balance to the new DFO.
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https://mnowatch.org/leaderboard/analysis/?20230821081003
https://mnowatch.org/2023-08-22-00-03-14.diff.html
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It is not just this budget proposal, a lot of other budget proposal saw a sharp decline in number of votes (even DCG Compensation budget proposal).
We as MNO have to change our voting attitude and become reasonable:
a PO ignoring questions or refusing to answer to an MNO --> automatic NO vote in future
a PO refusing to provide metrics when it is easily available --> automatic NO vote in future
a PO intentionally falsifying and counterfeiting metrics data --> automatic NO vote in future
Should be automatic NO vote NOW.
Supposing this is true, how does this proposal work then? Lots of details missing.
Is masterblaster afraid of losing DMH, despite the lack of metrics and communication?
For 93 days the MNOs are being disrespected.
The metrics are provided, for free, easily, by their twitter account (which is where the funding is going). In fact they provided this information in their first ever marketing hub proposal.
Do you MNOs have no self respect? Is there something wrong with you all? What is going on?
Demand the metrics. Then decide if this DFO is worth funding.
The same loud mouth apologists make convoluted arguments for why metrics should be hidden against their best interest.
Perhaps if you keep making excuses for why Dash should fund proposal owners that disrespect them and the funding mechanism of the DAO that would help?
Otherwise the contractors performing marketing tasks can approach the DAO directly.
You are comment is totally incoherent.
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Why are you acting as an apologist? Who are you to speak on their behalf?
Are you being serious?
metrics only the owner of the twitter account can provide.
Ask yourself, why do the proposal owners NOT want the MNOs to see the results of our spend?
How is it only a handful of MNOs that seem to care you're being deprived of basic metrics? What is wrong with you people?
Go there, in his upcoming show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPOam9Ray4
and ask you questions.
https://discord.com/channels/484546513507188745/653674039155359780
I do not like this, at all...
Look in the mirror Hotez.
But I just discovered that they have a Trello board, where all their work is documented.
https://trello.com/b/kk4LcqJY/dash-marketing-hub
Maybe there we can find the answers they refuse to provide here.
Try acting in your own self interest perhaps and demand metrics and output. Or not, depends how much you value Joel's "friendship".
70 days since asking for dash marketing hub to provide metrics on their social media efforts (the majority of their spend). 70 days without an answer. 70 days where MNOs seemingly can't be bothered to do even the most minimal amount of due diligence.
The Marketing Hub admins have a track record of failure. Where is the benefit of a doubt coming from? Truly bizarre. I would not be surprised in the least if reasonable MNO or prospective MNOs have left/not entered the project seeing how against the interests of the network these yes voters behave. This would be the exact of marketing, anti-marketing.
We are funding an anti-marketing hub.
There is zero desire to learn from past mistakes and get better. It is unclear how Dash can right the ship.
If you think the problem is the way the MNOs are voting in whatever proposal, then, instead of shouting in empty spaces, you have better start investigating who these MNOs are and why they are voting the way they do.
The below link may help you on that.
https://mnowatch.org/the_results_dashd_2023-06-24-01-40-24.uniqueHashVotes.129.html?3=DASH-MARKETING-HUB-INTEGRATIONS-BOUNTY
I can know who is voting stupidly but can not reach them.
But on the other hand, the dash protocol wants the government agents to be able to reach them, thats why the reveal their IP addresses.
So you also know their IPs, thus you also have a tiny hope to reach them.
Getting those guys out and fresh young minds in is going to take years.
I have no idea what is up with the MNOs.
I was upset about it. But as you said, these hub operators are parasites.
This can be viewed as good news. Parasites feed of the living. Dash isn't dead yet.
Everything else about this is bad and obviously bad. I don't know what it will take for MNOs to realize they are harming not helping the network.
My analysis is that these MNOs that vote yet are not doing any due diligence and they are finding friendship from the hub operators and this makes them act against their best interest.
2. Why should the network pay you to pay other people for their work while taking a cut for yourself? Where's the value add? We have a perfectly functional treasury system that can pay for this without the need for middlemen.
Losing integrations makes it look like you don't exist instead of concentrating the economic activity
Will we also be deprived of metrics to hold you accountable for this spending as well?