Proposal “Vendor-Experience“ (Closed)Back
| Title: | Vendor-Experience |
| Owner: | Solarminer |
| Monthly amount: | 729 DASH (16776 USD) |
| Completed payments: | no payments occurred yet (99 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2016-02-06 / 2024-04-28 (added on 2016-01-27) |
| Final voting deadline: | in na |
| Votes: | 514 Yes / 690 No / 0 Abstain |
| External information: | www.dashwhale.org/p/Vendor-Experience |
Proposal description
mnbudget vote-many 1cfc2525f33d8dee81640f6860fc85751acea552724ec58d6619f7fcee694ea1 yes
We believe the best way to grow Dash is to give users a place to spend their Dash. Dash has an advantage over any other crypto with InstantX that can enable point of sale purchases without risk. We plan to utilize this advantage to show projects in the real world.
The initial project we implemented was the Dash N Drink soda machine. The key to making this project was to implement InstantX detection and trigger a machine credit. This has now opened the door for the next phase. The next projects we will work on will include more sophisticated interfaces that will take engineering and software to connect to properly. We will be updating mobile wallets so they work quickly and easily. We expect to deploy actual products in actual stores.
The core team members coordinating this project are Camosoul and Solarminer.
We view this proposal as a core requirement for Dash adoption, not something that is for a single merchant application or single product. If anyone would rather only support this proposal for 1 month/3 months just vote it down when you want. We plan to deliver and keep pushing the envelope of possibilities so there is no reason to think about ending this project.
The Plan
We plan to initially target easier devices and as we learn get to more complicated infrastructure projects. This is the plan as we have it
now, but that could change based on vendor participation or types of products available. We expect to complete each of these projects in about 3 months.
Vending machine with multiple products that uses a custom interface.
Dash Sky Store Checkout
We will be getting assistance from inside and outside the Dash space. Each application will win press releases and additional status as a
leading crypto similar to how we won publicity with the Dash N Drink.
As for the questions about what happens to the products after we are done, we expect them to be in the hands of a merchant who will actually use them. This will bring ongoing publicity along with proof of concept for other merchants to adopt and a base for testing. The valuable part of all these projects is the software, publicity and to gain adoption. The software will be open source as much as possible. The intent is not to make a business to sell products but to show how products can be used in real world scenarios.
FAQs
Can we have some more information about the project, the vending machine and how you’re planning
on operating this?
The goal is to create the software and hardware to easily interface with a wide variety of products. We have outlined a multiple item vending machine to add software features as the initial product. The vending machine or future devices will be operated by a merchant similar to before our upgrades. The idea isn't to be in the vending business but to adopt a real product for Dash.
We don’t know what’s happening to the vending machine that was already made(Dash N Drink), who owns this vending machine and what’s the plan for it?
The Dash N Drink is being stored at Camosoul’s. Anyone is welcome to offer it a home. We still have some bugs in instantX detection to fix before it can be in an unattended location. Of course, the reason for building the Dash N Drink was to build a demo to test and use InstantX. It was a success at the Miami show, which was our primary goal.
What are you goingto be purchasing with the $3000?
A portion of the funds will go to the developers for coding enhancement to the software and wallets. There may also be a portion for outside support with gas pump controller software or point of sale devices. A large amount will go to modifying customer machines or buying hardware to interface with pumps/registers?
Can you give us an itemized breakdown?
We are looking at this as a development project. We don’t know what the breakdown of expenses will be. There will be some on-going costs like 4g internet and server space. Otherwise, we are putting the remaining funds into hardware and software.
Can you give us a plan on how you aim to use these funds each month?
The first few months will be sourcing a vending machine along with a merchant that wants to display it. We may also be able to find a merchant willing to let us convert their machine. We will begin to engineer a way to dispense each product with a specific QR code with coded price or with multiple QR codes. We will also work on an inventory system based on dash addresses. Some of these features are possible but we won’t know how effective they will be until we do them.
Would it be possible to come up with milestones for this project? What are you planning on accomplishing? How will it benefit the ecosystem? Setting specific milestones is difficult to nail down aswe will need to work with several groups who are already working on projects. I would expect every 3 monthswe would finish a product and start work on a new product. The goal here is to find applications that are similar to a wide family of products. Then another merchant can easily adopt from what we started. The benefit is to answer this question,“Where can I spend Dash?” We believe that question is what gives Dash it’s value.
Are you planning on selling vending machines, components of them eventually, or something like this? Who will earn these rewards?
This is not planned to be a profitable undertaking. We are not planning to sell products. We expect the final result of any of our builds to be machines that are in use in the real world making money for the merchant. All code will be open sourced as much as possible to enable DASH-specific projects to flourish.
I would assume if the masternode network is funding your operation, it should receive a cut of the profits each quarter paid out as dividends. I would like to also establish some sort of agreement between yourselves and the Darkcoin foundation as well to make that agreement official.
As for profits, we don’t expect any. If we do get to the point where there are no new projects to develop we will ask for the proposal to be voted down.
I’m curious what the answers are, as that will inform the decision of the masternode network. Funding is starting to get tight on the network so we definitely need to be careful that we’ll have great return on the network’s investment.
We understand that there a lot of other projects that are valuable. With the success of the Dash N Drink, we can’t help but think this is every bit as valuable as other projects.The key to success of any crypto project is real world adoption. This kind of development will stimulate that process.
We believe the best way to grow Dash is to give users a place to spend their Dash. Dash has an advantage over any other crypto with InstantX that can enable point of sale purchases without risk. We plan to utilize this advantage to show projects in the real world.
The initial project we implemented was the Dash N Drink soda machine. The key to making this project was to implement InstantX detection and trigger a machine credit. This has now opened the door for the next phase. The next projects we will work on will include more sophisticated interfaces that will take engineering and software to connect to properly. We will be updating mobile wallets so they work quickly and easily. We expect to deploy actual products in actual stores.
The core team members coordinating this project are Camosoul and Solarminer.
We view this proposal as a core requirement for Dash adoption, not something that is for a single merchant application or single product. If anyone would rather only support this proposal for 1 month/3 months just vote it down when you want. We plan to deliver and keep pushing the envelope of possibilities so there is no reason to think about ending this project.
The Plan
We plan to initially target easier devices and as we learn get to more complicated infrastructure projects. This is the plan as we have it
now, but that could change based on vendor participation or types of products available. We expect to complete each of these projects in about 3 months.
Vending machine with multiple products that uses a custom interface.
- Upgrade software for Raspberry PI or Odroid-XU4 as needed to make this all work.
- Design software to communicate with serial interface or more complicated multiple item vending controller
- Implement multiple product selection within the dash wallet along with a more stable interface.
- Implement multiple product selection and inventory tracking with QR codes and addresses
- Design software and hardware to communicate with the pump controller
- Implement a wifi captive portal checkout with one product.
- Enable prepay with return change
Dash Sky Store Checkout
- Design a wifi captive portal with multiple products.
- Enable shopping cart functionality on phone or portal.
- Implement the Dash Fast Lane - start wifi cart on entry and pay when you leave without a checkout line
- Enable phone to store product scanning (skipping the need for registers)
We will be getting assistance from inside and outside the Dash space. Each application will win press releases and additional status as a
leading crypto similar to how we won publicity with the Dash N Drink.
As for the questions about what happens to the products after we are done, we expect them to be in the hands of a merchant who will actually use them. This will bring ongoing publicity along with proof of concept for other merchants to adopt and a base for testing. The valuable part of all these projects is the software, publicity and to gain adoption. The software will be open source as much as possible. The intent is not to make a business to sell products but to show how products can be used in real world scenarios.
FAQs
Can we have some more information about the project, the vending machine and how you’re planning
on operating this?
The goal is to create the software and hardware to easily interface with a wide variety of products. We have outlined a multiple item vending machine to add software features as the initial product. The vending machine or future devices will be operated by a merchant similar to before our upgrades. The idea isn't to be in the vending business but to adopt a real product for Dash.
We don’t know what’s happening to the vending machine that was already made(Dash N Drink), who owns this vending machine and what’s the plan for it?
The Dash N Drink is being stored at Camosoul’s. Anyone is welcome to offer it a home. We still have some bugs in instantX detection to fix before it can be in an unattended location. Of course, the reason for building the Dash N Drink was to build a demo to test and use InstantX. It was a success at the Miami show, which was our primary goal.
What are you goingto be purchasing with the $3000?
A portion of the funds will go to the developers for coding enhancement to the software and wallets. There may also be a portion for outside support with gas pump controller software or point of sale devices. A large amount will go to modifying customer machines or buying hardware to interface with pumps/registers?
Can you give us an itemized breakdown?
We are looking at this as a development project. We don’t know what the breakdown of expenses will be. There will be some on-going costs like 4g internet and server space. Otherwise, we are putting the remaining funds into hardware and software.
Can you give us a plan on how you aim to use these funds each month?
The first few months will be sourcing a vending machine along with a merchant that wants to display it. We may also be able to find a merchant willing to let us convert their machine. We will begin to engineer a way to dispense each product with a specific QR code with coded price or with multiple QR codes. We will also work on an inventory system based on dash addresses. Some of these features are possible but we won’t know how effective they will be until we do them.
Would it be possible to come up with milestones for this project? What are you planning on accomplishing? How will it benefit the ecosystem? Setting specific milestones is difficult to nail down aswe will need to work with several groups who are already working on projects. I would expect every 3 monthswe would finish a product and start work on a new product. The goal here is to find applications that are similar to a wide family of products. Then another merchant can easily adopt from what we started. The benefit is to answer this question,“Where can I spend Dash?” We believe that question is what gives Dash it’s value.
Are you planning on selling vending machines, components of them eventually, or something like this? Who will earn these rewards?
This is not planned to be a profitable undertaking. We are not planning to sell products. We expect the final result of any of our builds to be machines that are in use in the real world making money for the merchant. All code will be open sourced as much as possible to enable DASH-specific projects to flourish.
I would assume if the masternode network is funding your operation, it should receive a cut of the profits each quarter paid out as dividends. I would like to also establish some sort of agreement between yourselves and the Darkcoin foundation as well to make that agreement official.
As for profits, we don’t expect any. If we do get to the point where there are no new projects to develop we will ask for the proposal to be voted down.
I’m curious what the answers are, as that will inform the decision of the masternode network. Funding is starting to get tight on the network so we definitely need to be careful that we’ll have great return on the network’s investment.
We understand that there a lot of other projects that are valuable. With the success of the Dash N Drink, we can’t help but think this is every bit as valuable as other projects.The key to success of any crypto project is real world adoption. This kind of development will stimulate that process.
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Yes, I can vote no anytime. Like now.
The root issue is that almost none of the MN operators have ever had an employee. It's an open-ended thing. Very few have ever done anything but go to the store and buy stuff (with their welfare checks). It's an arrangement you just don't understand. As such, I want it to fail. I don't want to be on the hook for people who just plain don't get it.
I'm not going to take on really bad suggestions just because the majority supports/proffers those bad ideas. If you can't understand that, then this proposal has very well served it's purpose!
You have been measured. You have been weighed. You have been found wanting. Go ahead and call me names. You've been called out and even after the fact, you still don't even realize what just happened... You still don't get it. The MNs! have spoken! Yes! And they've proven to the world that they're a majority of damn fools! Your microcosm is broken and no business will take you seriously. You live in a bubble and won't listen to reality because you think you're so great that you don't have to.
Nobody in the real world cares about DASH. You insist upon keeping it that way. By all means, so be it. Everyone learns eventually. Be it the easy way, or the hard way... You learn, or you become extinct. My business is doing better than this entire project, even when I completely ignore it for months on end. So, it won't be me going extinct. Socialists always learnt he hard way... "We voted!" Yeah? Morons always vote to fail...
Lols! They'd have to put down the bong and find a Che Guevara shirt that doesn't smell too bad, and then go outside...
I was skeptical about this initiative at first, but the proposers, (all in their own way, obviously) have convinced me that this is something that we need to explore. What's the use in having lots of fancy wallets, and sending Dash to each other if there is nothing we can do with it. Bitcoin was doing this the opposite way, they got merchant adoption with no one spending.
We have a chance here to grow our userbase, and our merchant base at around the same time. A balance is needed here. I'm not telling anyone how to vote, but I would really like to see what these gentlemen are capable of. It also seems that more of a team is forming, with other community members offering help. This could become an even bigger project with time!
If it does pass and gets funding it could very well get to deal with irregurarly funded issues as other budget proposals emerge.
You've given me a better idea about the scope and direction of the project, and that is appreciated.
To all don't forget you can downvote whenever you want, after a budget in downvote it disapear. Just think how great can be an easier integration for vendors, this can have an huge impact on Dash ecosystem.
Don't forget how great was the soda vending machine.
I vote Yes!
1. Every quarter, the community should have a broad breakdown of expenses and profits.
2. An undertaking that in the event that this becomes a profitable enterprise, the Dash Foundation will hold a 40% stake in said enterprise.
I'm sorry if that sounds too formal or unduly demanding, but I just don't want to see the dash community pouring money into something and then watching hopelessly from the sidelines as a spin-off venture emerges and takes all the profits. If there's no profits to be made then these rules won't be a concern.
What are the milestones?
Why 99 months?
Where the money is going to be spent?
Why 3000$ a month or 700DASH ?
Will the technology be given away for free?
Will you guys make a private company and sell the machines and technology?
Would not be better to set a timeline for goals and ask for funding to the first goal, then extending t
It’s definitely interesting to see how people are using the budget system already although only a few months old. The soda machine was a great project to show off one of the main features of Dash, instant transactions. Now I’m really interested to see where you’re going with this project.
Can we have some more information about the project, the vending machine and how you’re planning on operating this?
Here’s some of our main concerns:
We don’t know what’s happening to the vending machine that was already made, who owns this vending machine and what’s the plan for it?
What are you going to be purchasing with the $3000? Can you give us an itemized breakdown?
Can you give us a plan on how you aim to use these funds each month?
Would it be possible to come up with milestones for this project? What are you planning on accomplishing? How will it benefit the ecosystem?
Are you planning on selling vending machines, components of them eventually, or something like this? Who will earn these rewards?
I would assume if the masternode network is funding your operation, it should receive a cut of the profits each quarter paid out as dividends. I would like to also establish some sort of agreement between yourselves and the Darkcoin foundation as well to make that agreement official.
I’m curious what the answers are, as that will inform the decision of the masternode network. Funding is starting to get tight on the network so we definitely need to be careful that we’ll have great return on the network’s investment.
Regards,
Evan
Lets not repeat the lies of trolls, please...
"Funding is starting to get tight on the network so we definitely need to be careful that we’ll have great return on the network’s investment."
No. We need to man up, get the price of dash up higher, so that there's more room in the budget and one good idea doesn't have to cancel out another. Leaving IX to rot on the vine for another 7 months is not the path to making that happen. Something else. Anything else! The worst thing you can do is nothing. And nothing is what is being done.
There is no good way to disrupt a status quo of sitting around doing nothing. Everyone is comfortable with it, so anything I do will make them uncomfortable. I'm already the bad guy, so I'm going to keep on being the bad guy. Because it works.
Look at the budget space before Miami.
Look at it after.
We're asking for LESS THAN WE CREATED. Less than our fair share.
When life hands you trolls, crush them into troll juice.
Since before there was even a vending machine proposal, I've said I'll help anyone who wants to, set up a vending machine as a dash billboard as long as it is similar in appearance and branding to the one already made. It must also accept payment EXCLUSIVELY via DASH if you want the benefit of me/my team helping you out at no cost.
Sadly, there have been none to step forward. As soon as they realize there's actual work involved, all done.
Find machine. Strip existing paint. Prime. Repaint. Have decals and plastics printed. Install them. Replace/repair defective vending mechanisms. Replace/repair defective cooling system. Invent IX Detector. Install it on a computer. Install computer in vending machine. Have it trigger a credit relay. Reliably. Find a retailer interested in crypto willing to host this box. Show them you're not competing with the products they sell by offering them all the profit, and selling their own products in it. Proof that all you want is exposure for dash and they keep the change. Repeat this statement for months, only to be lied about and slandered anyway. Find out about all the secret guvtraps in the checkerboard of obnoxious overlapping jurisdictions, unpublished, secret laws and rules. Make sure you don't break any of them. Pay taxes. Register a corporation, if required. Buy a "license." Submit to inspections. Post your personal address and phone number publicly, when required. Get audited. A lot. Because guv hates crypto. Handle all this so the retailer doesn't get turned off by the liability. Do it all for free, because if you manage a single red cent of profit from it, you're scamming DASH! Have losers spit in your face because you're part of the 1% now! Why aren't you rolling on dough? You must be incompetent! Lets pull your funding! You're a failure! You can't get anything done!
I totally dig it! When do I start? You want me to do a job several orders of magnitude larger than that, for free, and if it drives the price of DASH up, I need to give it all back to you instead of getting a raise?
Fuck you. I don't exist to be driven like a slave and robbed of the fruits of my labors. I don't work for free. Solar is afraid to say it because he lets communists beat him down. But I'm not. We deserve to be paid, at least minimum wage, for this monumental task. You vote for a $16/hr minimum wage, but you say that the 3 of us aren't even worth $8/hr?
Only the incompetent work for peanuts. If you can do better, put up your own proposal, loser.
VOTE YES!
We plan to initially target easier devices and as we learn get to more complicated infrastructure projects. This is the plan as we have it now, but that could change based on vendor participation or types of products available.
Vending machine with multiple products that uses a custom interface.
- Design software to communicate with interface, implement multiple product selection within the dash wallet.
Gas pumps
- Design software to communicate with the pump controller, implement a wifi captive portal checkout with one product.
Dash Sky Store Checkout
- Design a wifi captive portal with multiple products. Implement the Dash Fast Lane - no register checkout.
We will be getting assistance from inside and outside the Dash space. Each application will win press releases and additional status as a leading crypto similar to how we won publicity with the Dash N Drink.
As for the questions about what happens to the products after we are done, we expect them to be in the hands of a merchant who will actually use them. This will bring ongoing publicity along with proof of concept for other merchants to adopt and a base for testing. The valuable part of all these projects is the software, publicity and to gain adoption. The software will be open source as much as possible. The intent is not to make a business to sell products but to show how products can be used in real world scenarios.
If this proposal doesn't pass, it means I get to buy the boat I've always wanted, and sail away, spending the rest of my life floating between sandy dots in the South Pacific, never to think about this dumbass bickering nerd drama ever again.
I don't even drink, but I'll send you a custom postcard of me sipping rum, beautiful sunset, and a new LBFM every day, while you grumble about my accurate description of losers losing...
Damn, how terrible... I'm desperately in need of this proposal passing so I can put up with idiotic bullshit for the rest of my life instead of what I really want to do. What a tantrum I must be throwing about "not getting my proposal through..." Such a curse to live out my days giving precisely zero fucks about this dumb noise...
Not everyone lives in their parents' basement. The people capable of doing this job certainly don't.
(But I'll change my vote to no if something goes wrong…)
If the people doing this work don't have a clear vision and are unable to set milestones, then why ask that of the community?
The questions should be, Do you want to use budget funds to make it easier for merchants to accept Dash? Do the project owners have a track record with building something similar already?
Details of their future projects can be provided as they evolve... right now details will only invite endless discussion and nothing will actually ever get done.
If after a month or two we are dissatisfied, the proposal can always be voted out, but for now I am confident this is 700 Dash well invested.
Monthly Amount 729.000 DASH (2,954.52 USD) (2,815.11 EUR)
Total Amount 72,171.000 DASH (292,497.56 USD) (278,695.95 EUR)
Total Payments 99