Proposal “ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24“ (Closed)Back

Title:ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24
Owner:itsdemo
One-time payment: 2 DASH (80 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2024-10-29 / 2024-12-03 (added on 2024-10-25)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 225 Yes / 88 No / 19 Abstain

Proposal description


The above video will be published to the Encointer members and will invite them to become Dash members, only in case the Dash masternodes approve to give any amount from their budget to Encointer.
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THE GOVERNANCE QUESTION: Regarding the numerical proposal "Encointer Basic Income",   after achieving a voting participation greater than the arbitrarily chosen threshold of 10%, may I ask you: What election method would you like to be used in order to extract a result, for the snapshot of the month OCTOBER 2024?

OPTION 1) DO NOT ANSWER the above question at all (just ignore this governance question as if it was never published), in case you believe that the inquestioned number should not be voted but should be decided by an authority/god and please describe the authority/god in the comments below.
  • If this option is selected this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 Dash for the OCT24 month.
OPTION 2) VOTE No if you think that a divisive method based on the percentage 49% should be applied . You may claim that the most voted number (which is currently zero) should be selected, despite the fact that at the end of the October budget cycle it was selected by only 49% of the votes, while the majority 51% of the votes were against it and they wanted to give an amount more than zero to the Dash/Encointer project. The percentage threshold in order for this option to be considered rational depends on the "mostVotedNumber" field of the results, which at the end of the October budget cycle was decided to be the 49% of the valid votes. So the NO option is eligible only in case it is voted by more-equal than 49% of the votes. For example, it is not rational for someone to claim that 49% is the correct election method to be used, in case this method receives only 30% of the votes! In that case the method does not respect itself!
  • If this option is voted this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 Dash for the OCT24 month.
OPTION 4) VOTE Abstain if you like the "Mean average", the most inclusive method where ALL the votes are calculated into the final outcome. Also vote ABSTAIN if you are a proponent of the time splitting rule, where all numbers are considered as valid numbers in the appropriate time window (for example: in case 70% of the voters voted 0 and 30% of the voters voted 26, we create a time window less equal than the human life time, lets say 10 years, and for the first 7 years the 0 number is applied, then for the next 3 years the 26 number is applied). Also vote ABSTAIN if you are a proponent of an alternative method not mentioned as an option in this poll (including the request to increase or decreace the voting range from 0-80 to something else) and please describe your alternative poll option in the comments below.
  • If this option is voted this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 Dash for the OCT24 month, but a new budget Proposal will be created asking the masternodes to select among the mean average, the time splitting rule or whatever else is proposed in the comments, provided of course there is available Dash into the dash/encointer tip address in order to pay a proposal fee.
OPTION 3) VOTE Yes if you like the "Median average" (a method introduced by Pietro Speroni). Also vote YES if you think that the tyranny of the majority "50%+1" should be applied, because at the end of the October budget cycle the 50%+1 of the votes decided to give an amount more than zero to EncointerUBI. This method has been introduced in the ancient Athenian Direct Democracy and claims that it is fair 50%+1 of the votes to rule 50%-1 of the votes, for 100% of the time.


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P.S.

  1. I recommend to the Dash members to bootstrap new local Encointer communities in their cities or to participate to any Encointer meeting worldwide, and thus examine the Encointer procedures and get the Basic Income (paid in the local currency and hopefully also in Dash). I also strongly recommend the masternodes to participate at least once in any local Encointer meeting, in order to receive the Dash basic income and find out that their vote is not in vain.
  2. PLEASE TIP THE DASH/ENCOINTER ADDRESS. Whatever you give as an individual to that address, it will be given as a Basic Income to the Dash/Encointer members (reputables) or used as proposal fee for budget proposals related to the Dash/Encointer project.
  3. FINNALY, PLEASE DONT FORGET TO ALWAYS PRAY AND ALWAYS VOTE FOR ENCOINTER numerical proposal, BECAUSE THE NUMERICAL VOTE LASTS 24 MONTHS. PLEASE VOTE HERE !!!!


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0 points,1 month ago
As a result of the vote, the Dash/Encointer foundation is out of money.

If you dont tip to the Dash/Encointer address, no other proposal will ever appear.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/address.dws?XwQpmyskbKPuTYKFF2wEZZcxfY17npUCZk.htm
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1 point,1 month ago
Most Voted Number = 2 (or 2 base3) was voted by 229 votes ( 67.75 % of the valid votes )

We are out of money, althoug voted by the 67.75%

Obviously, this is not our fault or voters' fault.

IT IS THE FAULT OF THE STUPID DASH VOTING SYSTEM!!!

THE DASH COMMUNITY SHOULD cHANGE ITS VOTINS SYSTEM ASAP!

https://www.dash.org/forum/index.php?threads/pre-proposal-put-the-unvoted-10-net-votes-threshold-of-the-dash-budget-system-into-vote.54042/
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0 points,1 month ago
The Results of the vote:

https://mnowatch.org/votethenumbers/votethenumbers3/calc3.php?proposals%5B%5D=ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24

Quick reference to Base3 voting theory: The semantic of this page is ( VOTED_NO=0, VOTED_ABSTAIN=1 and VOTED_YES=2)

The Numerical Proposals (the base3 digits) and the report date

Selected BASE3 type proposals Digit1= ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24
Report = the_results_dashd_2024-11-20-00-52-59.html.csv

Electorate = 3292 potential votes (Regular and Evo MNOs)
Valid Votes = 338
Valid Votes participation percentage = 10.26 %
Invalid Votes ( those who voted at least one digit but not all of them )= 0
Invalid Votes participation percentage = 0 %
Total Voting participation ( both valid and invalid votes ) = 10.26 %


---VOTING RESULTS (depends on which among the below election methods you prefer.)---

---Divisive Election Methods---
Most Voted Number = 2 (or 2 base3) was voted by 229 votes ( 67.75 % of the valid votes )

---Inclusive Election Methods---
Median Average = 2 (or 2 base3)
Mean Average = 1.41
Time Splitting rule = Not coded yet

Note: Multiply the number of your favorite election method by the appropriate Chunk ( =[maxRange-minRange]/granularityOfTheBase3Digits ) , to discover the voting outcome.
Note: This set of proposals does not declare a chunk in its last proposal/digit name

The Valid Votes (those who voted all the digits)

The Valid Votes (base3)
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

The Invalid Votes (those who voted at least one digit but not all of them)
The Invalid Votes (base3)
No Invalid Votes.
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2 points,1 month ago
FYI, here you are the masternodes who vote NO, thus refuse to offer 2 Dash to the Encointer project.

https://mnowatch.org/latestlink_DashdUniqueHashVotes.html?4=ENCOINTER-SUPP

Esmeralda and qwizzie are the most notable among them.
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2 points,1 month ago
And here you are the masternodes who vote ABSTAIN, thus want to give more than 2 Dash to the Encointer project.

https://mnowatch.org/latestlink_DashdUniqueHashVotes.html?5=ENCOINTER-SUPP

As long as they are currently a tiny minority with very few chances to succed , I would suggest to the people who want to give more than 2 Dash, to change their vote to YES in order to give at least 2 Dash.

If 2 Dash is given, and the basic income is distributed succesfully to the Dash/Encointer members, then I will post a new proposal asking the mean average (which is currently about 18 Dash).
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0 points,1 month ago
You can watch the results of this proposal here:

https://mnowatch.org/votethenumbers/votethenumbers3/calc3.php?proposals%5B%5D=ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24

The current participation in the vote is 5.27%. I hope it will reach the desired 10%.

I wonder, the people who do not participate and do not answer-vote to the governance question, who do they think should decide about the inquestioned number?

Please post a comment here, proposing who should be the authority that should decide if somethong should be given to the Encointer communities, and how much.

If you refuse to define the authority, is it maybe because you think that the voting participation should decide? If this is your opinion then what should be the minimum participation threshold above which a decision should be made? Lets vote the numbers about it!

https://www.dash.org/forum/index.php?threads/pre-proposal-put-the-unvoted-10-net-votes-threshold-of-the-dash-budget-system-into-vote.54042/

I still hope that there is tiny a drop of cleverness and logic into the masternodes.

The hope dies last. Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt.
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3 points,2 months ago
From the proposal text:

“If this option [Yes] is voted this will result the DASH/ENCOINTER TIP ADDRESS to receive 1X1(+1 proposal fee) = 2 Dash from the budget for the OCT24 month. This amount will be distributed to the currently 7 proven individuals of the Zurich/Swiss LEU dash-encointer community, to the currently 48 proven individuals of the Dar es Salaam/Tanzania NYOTA dash-encointer community and also to whatever new Dash-Encointer community may emerge in the meantime. All the Encointer members will be required to open Dash addresses in order to claim their Dash basic income. So, in case the Dash community finally decides to vote YES and invite/merge/join the Encointer community, the Encointer developers will (gratis) intergrade Dash into the Encointer wallet in order to make the distribution of the basic income possible.“

Seems like a great deal! You have my support.
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1 point,2 months ago
Thank you , Rion, for your support!
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1 point,2 months ago
And who the hell is this agent, who cast 12 NO votes for everything?

https://mnowatch.org/the_results_dashd_2024-10-29-12-30-55.uniqueHashVotes.176.html?6=546006640983616968304660199895813371339384773893

Shouldn't the other masternodes catch him/her, and beat him her to the ground????
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1 point,2 months ago
Strange. Only Forro would match this pattern of behavior.
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1 point,2 months ago
Anyone who consistently votes NO on everything is denying the very concept of governance and should be punished with a reduction in their voting power.
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2 points,2 months ago
Although the current proposal refers to the result of the October budget cycle, let me inform the Dash community that the result of the November budget cycle is NOT now at 49% in favor of zero Dash to be given to EncointeUBI, but currently changed and become 54% in favor of zero.

This was due to the below 4 New Jersey (and DCG proponent) masternodes, who casted a zero vote at the EncointerUBI numerical vote after this ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-OCT24. Probably some DCG members think that Encointer may earn 2 Dash that should be given to them as DCG-SUPPLEMENTAL?

The 4 DCG proponent masternodes who voted zero for encointerUBI and reversed the equilibrium of the vote can be seen below:

https://mnowatch.org/the_results_dashd_2024-10-27-00-52-24.uniqueHashVotes.176.html?6=188870694355101650940804784985900575406831909832

https://mnowatch.org/the_results_dashd_2024-10-27-00-52-24.uniqueHashVotes.176.html?6=679734507931967130720446245418637167098752561624

If this result remains until the end of the November month, the EncointerUBI proposal cannot claim the majority rule or the median average at the upcoming ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-NOV24, but we can only claim the mean average method.

So if you have not voted yet, PLEASE DONT FORGET TO ALSO VOTE SOMETHING MORE THAN ZERO FOR ENCOINTERUBI NUMERICAL PROPOSAL!

VOTE HERE:

https://mnowatch.org/encointerUBI
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3 points,2 months ago
Voting YES, engaging other communities and trying new things can't be bad. Thanks, Demo for organizing this!
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3 points,2 months ago
On behalf of the NYOTA and LEU Encointer communities, thank you very much for your support!
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