Proposal description
GOVERNANCE QUESTION: What method would you like to be used in order to extract a result from the encointerUBI numerical proposal?
OPTION 1) Do not answer the above question at all (just ignore this governance question as if it was never published), in case you believe that the inquestioned number should not be voted but should be decided by an authority/god and please describe the authority/god in the comments below.
"Look at Hecate, standing guard at the crossroads, one face looking in each direction." - Ovid
OPTION 1) Do not answer the above question at all (just ignore this governance question as if it was never published), in case you believe that the inquestioned number should not be voted but should be decided by an authority/god and please describe the authority/god in the comments below.
- If this option is selected this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 dash this month.
- If this option is voted this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 dash this month.
- If this option is voted this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 0 dash this month.
- If this option is voted this will result the encointerUBI proposal to receive 3.92 X 9.3 = 36.5 (+1 proposal fee) = 37.5 Dash this month. This amount will be distributed to the currently 12 proven individuals of the Zurich/Swiss Leu dash-encointer community, to the currently 4 proven individuals of the Greenbay/USA GreenDollar dash-encointer community, to the currently 37 proven individuals of the Dar es Salaam/Tanzania Nyota dash-encointer community and also to whatever new Dash-Encointer community may emerge in the meantime. All the Encointer members will be required to open Dash addresses in order to claim their Dash basic income. So, in case the Dash community finally decides to vote YES and invite/merge/join the Encointer community, the Encointer developers will (gratis) intergrade Dash into the Encointer wallet in order to make the distribution of the basic income possible.
"Look at Hecate, standing guard at the crossroads, one face looking in each direction." - Ovid
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Electorate = 3403 potential votes (includes Regular and Evo Masternodes)
ValidVotes = 229
Voting participation = 6.73 % (it does not pass the 10% threshold)
--VOTING RESULTS--
- Voters who believe the inquestioned number should not be voted but should be decided by an authority/god (or just people not aware of this governance proposal) -
3174 (non) votes
-Voters who believe in the tyranny of the majority-
188 votes (or 82.1% of the valid votes)
-Voters who believe in the median average or in any alternative method not mentioned -
2 votes ( or 0.8% of the valid votes )
-Voters who believe in the mean average or in the time splitting rule -
39 votes ( or 17% of the valid votes )
And this after all that demo had to endure because of the obvious governance shortcomings i wanted to fix.
Both of you have backstabbed demo without mercy!
Are you not even ashamed of yourself?
If you refer to the ENCOINTER-SUPPLEMENTAL-MAR24 proposal, it is not snarky.
It may be a difficult to understand proposal for those whose the mind is blur, but it is a rational proposal that offers to the voter all the possible roads to vote.
In my extreme loneliness, it is very important that at least you you can understand what I am saying.
Your words keep the hope alive.
There is no escape from rationality.
But I understand your feeling. When all roads are offered, there is only the feeling that left. The feeling may deny all possible roads, without a rational explanation.
I also find myself in such a state, where I am sad when something will happen, but also sad when something will not happen.
Deat and oblivion. Lethe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrmCT9jYiKk
Dominus deat, Dominus aufert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBdmrecpJmU
The non voters do not express opinion on the number, so they obviously believe that the inquestioned number should be decided by an authority/god.
If the dash dao was functioning correctly, then, in it's lifespan, either:
1. CAPITALISM wins: the response to endless proposal funding input would result in a higher price output per unit of dash, or
2. ALTRUISM wins: the dash price would not reflect dash funding if MNO intentions were truly altruistic. For, if MNOs were altruistic, then their willingness to give a lousy 38 dash would of been granted.
Imo, MNOs live in a mad world where they somehow justify to pay the food and rent to a minority set of developers - for multiple years - while denying a measly sum to a small social experiment. Do you dare say this PO is a con artist and fraud?
Note: I am not agreeing with this social experiment per se, but trying to show that there is no logic here, only madness. Yes, it's normal for humans to hold two opposing views in their head at the same time, but as a dao it demonstrates how painful and broken things are.
But on the other hand I disagee, Encointer is not a social experiment. It is a way to incentivize the new generations and the late adopter (who understand the stupidity of the coin emission curve) to reconsider, join this dead Dash coin and bring it back to life.
We have 4 very important ideas at stake with this vote:
1) Ability of the MNOs to VOTE NUMBERS or numbered poll options.
2) Merge Dash community with another community and provide a PROOF OF PERSONHOOD for the Dash community combined with ANONYMITY. That way we could spot the bad actors.
3) Offer a Basic Income for both Dash and Encointer communities, meant to cure the irregularities of the Dash coin emission curve and INCENTIVIZE the new generations and the late adopters.
4) Incentivize local Dash members to meet each other in real life, in regular intervals, and strengthen the community feeling.
Indeed. In the Athenian Democracy they punished to death who ever proposed a view that was opposing to another view.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphe_paranomon
The person that have has two ideas which contradict each other, he/she is a daemon possesed person and collapses. But who cares about this person?
But when having laws contradict each other, the whole state collapses. And everybody cares about a collapsed state, especially the enemies of that state.
Think of it... An idea mentioned in the bible ("Here is wisdom, and whoever has a mind in him, let him vote the number") is implemented NOWHERE, and I challenge everyone to point me a place on earth where voting by using numbers is implemented.
Isnt this strange?
The complete absense of "voting the numbers", not even in the smallest community here on earth, never in the whole history of human kind, is the proof that daemons exist and work tirelessly against humanity.
He/she voted for 242 dash to be given Encointer (voted YES to all the encointerUBI-Digit proposals).
But when asked to select the method, he prefers the tyranny of the majority (which results 0 dash to be given)
Here follows the history of the votes of the twotimes masternode:
https://mnowatch.org/queries/query3/query3.php?iphash=twotimes
There are inumerous examples of irrational votes of masternodes, the historian of the future would find plenty of crazy cases similar to the above.
The champion is the one who voted a number for the EncointerUBI, but when asked for the method in order to extract the results he/she prefers the inquestioned number to be decided by an authority/god.
And we have a lot of champions around!
This will of course fail to achieve anything with regards to the actual voting by MNO's, it just shows that it is very easy to build up multiple accounts on Dash Central and use them to excessively upvote or downvote either certain comments or certain proposals in the budget section of Dash Central.
If there is an arsenal of Dash Central accounts that upvotes this proposal, this arsenal is not controlled by me.
If i had not already sold my masternode in the meanwhile, i would be glad to cast my vote in favor.
Most MNO are unable to even understand this awesome proposal, i seriously wonder why? Its embarrassing...
We owe so much to demo and yet the MNO keep treating him worse than shit, i am both enraged and appalled !
Its disgusting how badly demo is being humiliated by stubborn MNO who refuse to learn from demo.
After all that has been done to demo, i can only admire his steadfastness, his great patience and his willingness to still be around, despite most MNO show no appreciation at all. Shame! Shame! Shame!
You are blinded by daemons, beware !
Perhaps you should be more cautious, when expressing such baseless conspiracy theories.
And just so you know, the reason i sold my masternode was not performance-related,
but because the selfishness and greed of the MNO became disgusting and unbearable for me.
After all demo had to endure so far, at the hands of the MNO, supporting him is the very least you could do!
Qwizzie, if you only had a conscience, i seriously wonder how you can live with yourself, let alone sleep at night.
Demo has shown an immense amount of patience trying to teach you (and the MNO as a whole) valuable lessons,
but you repeatedly refused to hear and refused to learn from demo. Shame.
It was indeed a bit too obvious to have this EddyMurphy account suddenly receive 9 upvotes.
https://www.dashcentral.org/budget
I wonder, are you blind? How can is this possible, the number 9 to appear as 1 to you?
I have not voted yet, neither here in dashcentral nor in the budget.
And I repeat, EddyMurphy is not my puppet, he/she is a different individual.
If you think it is suspicious, you could ask the dashcentral admin (rango) to clarify what happened. It would be suspicious only in case it is a bug that the dashcentral admin (rango) cannot explain and in that case I wonder why the bug appeared at this moment.
Daemons....Ancient powerfull Daemons, at least 2000 years old, are involved in this issue...
https://www.dash.org/forum/index.php?threads/pre-proposal-fractional-voting-0-1.53496/#post-233717
I repeat my question , and I challenge any rational person to answer it: Why "vote the numbers" is not allowed anywhere, not even allowed in the smallest community here on earth?
Think of it... An idea mentioned in the bible ("Here is wisdom, and whoever has a mind in him, let him vote the number") that is not implemente NOWHERE, and I challenge everyone to point me a place on earth where voting by using numbers is implemented.
Isnt this strange?
The complete absense of "voting the numbers", not even in the smallest community here on earth, never in the whole history of human kind, is the proof that daemons exist and work tirelessly against humanity.
https://www.dash.org/forum/index.php?threads/pre-proposal-fractional-voting-0-1.53496/#post-233702
Dash community goes towards the same burning Hell, because its leaders (the MNOs) are deamon possessed. So, whatever happens here in Dash, the obvious destruction and the spiral death of the Dash community which goes from bad to worse, it is simply a mignature of what happens to the earthly universe.
The possesed MNOs vote unwisely for the Dash rules, similarly to what the deamons are doing for the rules of the time-space around earth, and decay and death is the consequence.
These two rules give to every minority the chance to present its point of view for a small time and convince the misleaded majority about right or wrong.
The perfection resides among minorities, perfection is actually the most rare minority.
Perfection can be saved and save us if we use the mean average (because the perfection's vote if calculated in the voting outcome can save us from complete destruction).
But the kingdom of perfection (but also the kingdom of complete destruction) appears when we use the time-splitting rule.
“Lord, remember me when you come into your Kingdom."
This is by the way the same proposal owner that has been relentlessly spamming his infatuation of the Encointer community and his hatred towards MNO's and Dash Governance system countless times. Through his previous Encointer budget proposals that were heavily downvoted (but still active due to their very very long time periods) and through constantly attacking MNO's in other budget proposals.
Maybe it is time demo / vazaki3 moves on from Dash. He has pretty much already burned all his bridges here.
This has two possible outcomes : the number of yes votes exceed the number of no votes in such a way that it passes the 10% treshold (proposal passes) or the number of yes votes do not exceed the number of no votes in such a way that it passes the 10% treshold (proposal does not pass).
Nothing more, nothing less. All your 4 stated options are pointless and irrelevant.
It is a GOVERNANCE QUESTION with 4 option.
In case the 4th option is voted, then this results 38 Dash to be paid, but this is not imprtant.
The important is not the payment, it is the selection method the masternodes prefer.
If you wanted this to be a decision proposal, then you should have requested 1 dash or better yet : 0 dash.
The issue is the deamon possessed humanity, which denies to vote numbers (even for trivial and innocent things) since the begining of the times.
This is A GOVERNANCE QUESTION.
If you dont like that, pay 1 dash proposal fee and ask the masternodes whether I have the right to define about the nature and the functionality of the proposal I paid !!!!
The MNOs are quick to call you out for a tiny amount yet happy to gloss over large dash grabs. That hypocrisy means the small representation of voters decide the outcome, whether it makes sense to the rest of us or not.
I am not submitting any proposals because it's utterly pointless and broken. This is fake governance where a minority rule over all other stake holders. They're not giving that up anytime soon.
Governance consensus is not PoW but via a single binary issued by a DCG dictatorship. Failure to comply results in demonetization. There you go, MNOs claiming they're giving people a censorship resistant network when the DCG gods demand compliance. How ironic. Making it open source or calling it a "protocol" does not change anything. DCG slaves live and die by a single ultimatum, fork it or go elsewhere. Their wish has been granted a hundred times over as dash continues to consistently fall in price, rank and relevance.
The answer to this problem has been given. The spork system, where sporks are also ignited or rollback by peope's vote.
But unfortunately the DCG abandoned the spork system, not to mention the ability to vote on sporks, and keeps coding directly to the core without giving the ignite or the rollback options to the voters.