Proposal “DASH_FORCE_SEPTEMBER“ (Completed)Back
| Title: | Dash Force September - December: Moderation Update |
| Owner: | Mastermined |
| Monthly amount: | 195 DASH (9063 USD) |
| Completed payments: | 4 totaling in 780 DASH (0 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2018-08-17 / 2018-12-15 (added on 2018-08-10) |
| Final voting deadline: | in passed |
| Votes: | 0 Yes / 0 No / 0 Abstain |
Proposal description
DASH FORCE MISSION STATEMENT
We at the Dash Force aim to be the Dash community's front line of defense and support. Our mission is to provide support to the human ecosystem surrounding Dash, ensuring that its network effects are maximized by building a community that is the envy of the digital currency world. Whether it be countering online trolls, reporting critical news, helping local meetups flourish, encouraging economic activity to newly integrated services and exchanges, or bringing in new members and fans, we will do our best to ensure that Dash's community grows and strengthens into a positive social movement behind some of the most amazing and revolutionary technology of our time. Above all, we seek to conduct ourselves as ambassadors of the Dash community in a polite and professional manner, using honesty and genuine goodwill to represent and preserve Dash's positive and community-focused brand, and relentless tenacity and commitment to quality work to ensure that the job gets done right.
Current Dash Force Operations:
Dash Force PR
Dash Force has responded to the growing demand for Dash to increase its media presence by partnering with BTC Media to reach media outlets far beyond Dash Force News and end Dash’s conspicuous media blackout. In our first foray we have managed to get Dash’s incredible success story in Venezuela covered by over 75 publications, including Bitcoin Magazine, and we have additional stories still in progress, including the ever-elusive Coindesk. Our goal is to ensure that Dash’s various and continuing achievements receive top-level coverage in all major crypto media outlets, as well as well beyond the crypto world.
Additionally, we have stepped up our game representing Dash in person. Most notably, Mark Mason delivered a speech before the UK Parliament, and Joël Valenzuela has been invited on a panel on blockchain voting moderated by Erik Voorhees and Christina Tobin at Politicon, an event with a projected attendance of over 20,000.
Dash Force July 2018 PR Report By Mark Mason
https://www.dashforcenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/PR-Report-July-2018-1.pdf
Dash Force News (Rebranding this funding cycle) publishes 2 or more new articles everyday covering the Dash community. There has yet to be a day when something notable was not going on. Fortunately we have a lot of good news to cover. DFN is also translating articles into 6+ other languages. English, Spanish, French, Russian, German, Portuguese, Korean.
Dash Force News Webmaster Report
Discover Dash currently has 4000+ Dash accepting Merchants. Recently Updated Website!
In an effort to provide the Dash community with the necessary resources to reach mass adoption as quickly as possible, we have started DiscoverDash.com, a merchant listing and adoption website. This will give new users and businesses all the resources they need to start using Dash, and provide a powerful visual statement of how strong and diverse the Dash economy has become.The site is actively maintained and strives to be “the” site for Dash business listings. Plans are to continue to grow this and provide easy to use guides for merchant adoption, meetups and more. Live chat has recently been added and 24hr. Live chat support will be available after a little more testing.
Dash Force YouTube – The channel currently has almost 3000 subscribers with 1 to 2 weekly shows.
3 Amigos Podcast is done live and features the 3 partners that run Dash Force. This is an easy going discussion of the weeks topics with the occasional guest and questions from the live chat.
The Dash Force News 3 Amigos Podcast is now broadcasted on The Liberty Radio Network and is also available to listen to on the following platforms: Itunes, Tunein, Stitcher, Google Play, Overcast, Podbean.
There are also more or less monthly interviews with Dash related guests like Scott Farsworth AKA Dashracer and Bitcoin Jesus Roger Ver along with Evan Duffield and others.
During the May - August cycle we were pleased to interview Dash Core Group CEO Ryan Taylor, DCG CTO Bob Carroll and many more.
Dash Force Meetup and Presentation Program
Meetup Programs in Mexico, South Africa, Haiti, Germany, Russia, England the US and many more. Around 10,000 wallets have been set up during these meetup classes with potentially hundreds of thousands being exposed to Dash in a positive way through large presentations and festival events.
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program - On hold due to funding constraints
MVP Contest is a monthly award of 1 Dash to the most Active and Valuable members of the community.
Swarms and the Mod Squad
Active engagement on Discord, Reddit, Twitter, Bitcointalk, YouTube, Facebook, Telegram and other social media Platforms. We also assist in reviewing and helping with pre proposals and active proposals. Everyday task include, article sharing across multiple Social Media Platforms and moderation of said platforms, upvoting/downvoting positive/negative post and countering misinformation.
Update: 10-4-18
With the Network's approval we will continue with moderation of the Dashpay Reddit and also help with the Dash.org forums. This will be done under the existing budget and no further funding will be required. We will work with all moderators to create a decentralized committee based moderation system.
We feel it is important that moderation is decentralized amongst many different individuals and organisations and not administered by one centralized person with total control over important Dash communication channels.
Joël Valenzuela on using Dash for everyday purchases - CNN International
Mark Mason Blockchain speech at UK Houses of Parliament for Bahrain Opportunities Forum 2018
April Budget Allocation:
0 + 74.842 Rollover = 74.842
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (3 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 87.56
Website budget - Upgraded Server - 0.316
Dash Giveaway at Talent Land in Guadalajara, Mexico 2018 - 1
Prop Fee - 5
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 234 wallets set up - 5.25
Total 99.126
May Budget Allocation:
150 - 24.284 Rollover = 125.716
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 71.67
Website budget - Upgraded Server - .19
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 122 wallets set up - 2.95
@KennethBosak - 2
Tip Budget - 1.02
Mises Event - San Francisco Seminar on the Future of Money - 1.51
Crypt0 -2
Total 81.34
June Budget Allocation:
150 + 44.376 Rollover = 194.376
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 106.217
Website budget - Upgraded Server - .29
@KennethBosak Canada - 2
Website domains - .874
Dash Central Donation - .5
Dash Force MVP Winners: June Cycle - 4.006
Dash Force Meetup Contest Winners: 175 wallets set up - 6.6
Total 120.487
July Budget Allocation:
150 + 73.889 Rollover = 223.889
Dash Force Team Salaries and New PR funding (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 151.51
Website Budget - 0.37 + Extra Bandwidth July - .09
Dash conference - Venezuela - 2
DashBoost/Pasta - 1
My Dash Wallet Discord Tip Fund - 1
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 309 Wallets set up - 8.75
Total 164.72
August Budget Allocation:
150 + 59.17 Rollover = 209.17
Dash Force Team Salaries and New PR funding (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 195.20
@KennethBosak Promotion - 1
Website budget - 0.45
Prop fee - 5
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 381 Wallets Setup - 7.3
PR Wire- 2.06
Total 211.01
September Budget Allocation:
195 - 1.84 Rollover = 193.16
Dash Force Team Salaries (4 full-time and 11+ part-time) - 159.3
Website budget - 0.43
DC Donation- 1.0
PR Wire, Advance With Discount - 11.63
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 129 Wallets Setup - 6.753
Tip Fund - 1.207
Total - 180.32
October Budget Allocation:
195 + 12.84 Rollover = 207.84
Dash Force Team Salaries (4 full-time and 11+ part-time) - 179.77
Website hosting budgets, Upgraded DFN and Discover Dash - 1.53
Tipping Fund - 1
Large Meetup Presentation, Edwar - 2
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 337 Wallets setup - 9.2
Total 193.5
November Budget Allocation:
195 + 14.34 Rollover = 209.34
Ongoing...
Upcoming and Special Projects!
Dash Force News Writing Contest - On hold due to budget constraints
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program Phase 2 (Brick and Mortar) - On hold due to budget constraints
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program Phase 1 - On hold due to budget constraints
Dash Force News Rebranding - Progressing Carefully
Dash Force Free Escrow - Mastermined
Proposal Fee Help Program - On hold due to budget constraints
Dash Force Outreach to International (Women) Entrepreneurs - New outreach program on hold
VICE: Wall Street Meets Pepe - Cryptocurrency Is a Bro’s World - Anja
Dash Force China, Brazil, Russia, Japan, Latin America, Korea, India and more - Hiring Freeze due to budget constraints
Dash Force Core Team
4 full-time roles:
Brian FreeMan @mastermined - Treasurer and Executive Director of Dash Force and Founder of Dash Force News
Mark Mason @MarkMason - Dash Force Webmaster, Media Relations and Director of International Outreach
Joel Valenzuela @thedesertlynx - Chief Editor and Writer for Dash Force News, Dash Force Community Ambassador
Albert Arellanes - Discover Dash Manager and Live Chat , DF Contest Manager, Mod Squad
12+ part-time roles:
Justin Szilard - DFN Head Writer
Kanuuker - Dash Force Social Media Swarm leader and Dash Brain
Solowizkid - Mod Squad Social Media Swarm leader
Agnewpickens - Mod Squad Altcoin Ambassador
Pasta - Mod Squad CTO
Wilmar Toro - Dash Force News Spanish Translator and community Outreach
Yujin - Dash Force News Korea Translator and Community Outreach
Roxane - DFN French Translator and Outreach
Fabio and Jan - DFN German Translator and Outreach
Dmitrii Zhludin - DFN Russian Translator and Outreach
Rígille - DFN Portuguese Translator and Outreach
Dash Watch Report
Thanks again to all the masternode owners who continue to vote for us!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestion please share them below.
For more information please see the Original proposal and all discussion thereafter.
Dash Talk Discord Invite link: https://discordapp.com/invite/PXbUxJB
Requested funding for the September - December budget cycle:
Total: 195 Dash Per month
Special Note:
195 Dash does not cover our monthly burn rate at the current price (Sub $200). If the Dash price does not recover soon we will be forced to make some very major cuts going forward. A few of those cuts have already begun with most contest and upcoming programs being paused. A hiring freeze has also been implemented and unfortunately some members will have to be let go next cycle if the Dash price does not fully recover by the end of August.
Dash Forum
Dash Force September - December Proposal
We at the Dash Force aim to be the Dash community's front line of defense and support. Our mission is to provide support to the human ecosystem surrounding Dash, ensuring that its network effects are maximized by building a community that is the envy of the digital currency world. Whether it be countering online trolls, reporting critical news, helping local meetups flourish, encouraging economic activity to newly integrated services and exchanges, or bringing in new members and fans, we will do our best to ensure that Dash's community grows and strengthens into a positive social movement behind some of the most amazing and revolutionary technology of our time. Above all, we seek to conduct ourselves as ambassadors of the Dash community in a polite and professional manner, using honesty and genuine goodwill to represent and preserve Dash's positive and community-focused brand, and relentless tenacity and commitment to quality work to ensure that the job gets done right.
Current Dash Force Operations:
Dash Force PR
Dash Force has responded to the growing demand for Dash to increase its media presence by partnering with BTC Media to reach media outlets far beyond Dash Force News and end Dash’s conspicuous media blackout. In our first foray we have managed to get Dash’s incredible success story in Venezuela covered by over 75 publications, including Bitcoin Magazine, and we have additional stories still in progress, including the ever-elusive Coindesk. Our goal is to ensure that Dash’s various and continuing achievements receive top-level coverage in all major crypto media outlets, as well as well beyond the crypto world.
Additionally, we have stepped up our game representing Dash in person. Most notably, Mark Mason delivered a speech before the UK Parliament, and Joël Valenzuela has been invited on a panel on blockchain voting moderated by Erik Voorhees and Christina Tobin at Politicon, an event with a projected attendance of over 20,000.
Dash Force July 2018 PR Report By Mark Mason
https://www.dashforcenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/PR-Report-July-2018-1.pdf
Dash Force News (Rebranding this funding cycle) publishes 2 or more new articles everyday covering the Dash community. There has yet to be a day when something notable was not going on. Fortunately we have a lot of good news to cover. DFN is also translating articles into 6+ other languages. English, Spanish, French, Russian, German, Portuguese, Korean.
Dash Force News Webmaster Report
Discover Dash currently has 4000+ Dash accepting Merchants. Recently Updated Website!
In an effort to provide the Dash community with the necessary resources to reach mass adoption as quickly as possible, we have started DiscoverDash.com, a merchant listing and adoption website. This will give new users and businesses all the resources they need to start using Dash, and provide a powerful visual statement of how strong and diverse the Dash economy has become.The site is actively maintained and strives to be “the” site for Dash business listings. Plans are to continue to grow this and provide easy to use guides for merchant adoption, meetups and more. Live chat has recently been added and 24hr. Live chat support will be available after a little more testing.
Dash Force YouTube – The channel currently has almost 3000 subscribers with 1 to 2 weekly shows.
3 Amigos Podcast is done live and features the 3 partners that run Dash Force. This is an easy going discussion of the weeks topics with the occasional guest and questions from the live chat.
The Dash Force News 3 Amigos Podcast is now broadcasted on The Liberty Radio Network and is also available to listen to on the following platforms: Itunes, Tunein, Stitcher, Google Play, Overcast, Podbean.
There are also more or less monthly interviews with Dash related guests like Scott Farsworth AKA Dashracer and Bitcoin Jesus Roger Ver along with Evan Duffield and others.
During the May - August cycle we were pleased to interview Dash Core Group CEO Ryan Taylor, DCG CTO Bob Carroll and many more.
Dash Force Meetup and Presentation Program
Meetup Programs in Mexico, South Africa, Haiti, Germany, Russia, England the US and many more. Around 10,000 wallets have been set up during these meetup classes with potentially hundreds of thousands being exposed to Dash in a positive way through large presentations and festival events.
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program - On hold due to funding constraints
MVP Contest is a monthly award of 1 Dash to the most Active and Valuable members of the community.
Swarms and the Mod Squad
Active engagement on Discord, Reddit, Twitter, Bitcointalk, YouTube, Facebook, Telegram and other social media Platforms. We also assist in reviewing and helping with pre proposals and active proposals. Everyday task include, article sharing across multiple Social Media Platforms and moderation of said platforms, upvoting/downvoting positive/negative post and countering misinformation.
Update: 10-4-18
With the Network's approval we will continue with moderation of the Dashpay Reddit and also help with the Dash.org forums. This will be done under the existing budget and no further funding will be required. We will work with all moderators to create a decentralized committee based moderation system.
We feel it is important that moderation is decentralized amongst many different individuals and organisations and not administered by one centralized person with total control over important Dash communication channels.
Joël Valenzuela on using Dash for everyday purchases - CNN International
Mark Mason Blockchain speech at UK Houses of Parliament for Bahrain Opportunities Forum 2018
April Budget Allocation:
0 + 74.842 Rollover = 74.842
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (3 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 87.56
Website budget - Upgraded Server - 0.316
Dash Giveaway at Talent Land in Guadalajara, Mexico 2018 - 1
Prop Fee - 5
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 234 wallets set up - 5.25
Total 99.126
May Budget Allocation:
150 - 24.284 Rollover = 125.716
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 71.67
Website budget - Upgraded Server - .19
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 122 wallets set up - 2.95
@KennethBosak - 2
Tip Budget - 1.02
Mises Event - San Francisco Seminar on the Future of Money - 1.51
Crypt0 -2
Total 81.34
June Budget Allocation:
150 + 44.376 Rollover = 194.376
Dash Force Core Team Salaries (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 106.217
Website budget - Upgraded Server - .29
@KennethBosak Canada - 2
Website domains - .874
Dash Central Donation - .5
Dash Force MVP Winners: June Cycle - 4.006
Dash Force Meetup Contest Winners: 175 wallets set up - 6.6
Total 120.487
July Budget Allocation:
150 + 73.889 Rollover = 223.889
Dash Force Team Salaries and New PR funding (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 151.51
Website Budget - 0.37 + Extra Bandwidth July - .09
Dash conference - Venezuela - 2
DashBoost/Pasta - 1
My Dash Wallet Discord Tip Fund - 1
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 309 Wallets set up - 8.75
Total 164.72
August Budget Allocation:
150 + 59.17 Rollover = 209.17
Dash Force Team Salaries and New PR funding (4 full-time and 14+ part-time) - 195.20
@KennethBosak Promotion - 1
Website budget - 0.45
Prop fee - 5
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 381 Wallets Setup - 7.3
PR Wire- 2.06
Total 211.01
September Budget Allocation:
195 - 1.84 Rollover = 193.16
Dash Force Team Salaries (4 full-time and 11+ part-time) - 159.3
Website budget - 0.43
DC Donation- 1.0
PR Wire, Advance With Discount - 11.63
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 129 Wallets Setup - 6.753
Tip Fund - 1.207
Total - 180.32
October Budget Allocation:
195 + 12.84 Rollover = 207.84
Dash Force Team Salaries (4 full-time and 11+ part-time) - 179.77
Website hosting budgets, Upgraded DFN and Discover Dash - 1.53
Tipping Fund - 1
Large Meetup Presentation, Edwar - 2
Dash Force Meetup Contest: 337 Wallets setup - 9.2
Total 193.5
November Budget Allocation:
195 + 14.34 Rollover = 209.34
Ongoing...
Upcoming and Special Projects!
Dash Force News Writing Contest - On hold due to budget constraints
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program Phase 2 (Brick and Mortar) - On hold due to budget constraints
Discover Dash Merchant Adoption Program Phase 1 - On hold due to budget constraints
Dash Force News Rebranding - Progressing Carefully
Dash Force Free Escrow - Mastermined
Proposal Fee Help Program - On hold due to budget constraints
Dash Force Outreach to International (Women) Entrepreneurs - New outreach program on hold
VICE: Wall Street Meets Pepe - Cryptocurrency Is a Bro’s World - Anja
Dash Force China, Brazil, Russia, Japan, Latin America, Korea, India and more - Hiring Freeze due to budget constraints
Dash Force Core Team
4 full-time roles:
Brian FreeMan @mastermined - Treasurer and Executive Director of Dash Force and Founder of Dash Force News
Mark Mason @MarkMason - Dash Force Webmaster, Media Relations and Director of International Outreach
Joel Valenzuela @thedesertlynx - Chief Editor and Writer for Dash Force News, Dash Force Community Ambassador
Albert Arellanes - Discover Dash Manager and Live Chat , DF Contest Manager, Mod Squad
12+ part-time roles:
Justin Szilard - DFN Head Writer
Kanuuker - Dash Force Social Media Swarm leader and Dash Brain
Solowizkid - Mod Squad Social Media Swarm leader
Agnewpickens - Mod Squad Altcoin Ambassador
Pasta - Mod Squad CTO
Wilmar Toro - Dash Force News Spanish Translator and community Outreach
Yujin - Dash Force News Korea Translator and Community Outreach
Roxane - DFN French Translator and Outreach
Fabio and Jan - DFN German Translator and Outreach
Dmitrii Zhludin - DFN Russian Translator and Outreach
Rígille - DFN Portuguese Translator and Outreach
Dash Watch Report
Thanks again to all the masternode owners who continue to vote for us!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestion please share them below.
For more information please see the Original proposal and all discussion thereafter.
Dash Talk Discord Invite link: https://discordapp.com/invite/PXbUxJB
Requested funding for the September - December budget cycle:
Total: 195 Dash Per month
Special Note:
195 Dash does not cover our monthly burn rate at the current price (Sub $200). If the Dash price does not recover soon we will be forced to make some very major cuts going forward. A few of those cuts have already begun with most contest and upcoming programs being paused. A hiring freeze has also been implemented and unfortunately some members will have to be let go next cycle if the Dash price does not fully recover by the end of August.
Dash Forum
Dash Force September - December Proposal
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Question for DFN :
Why are you measuring with double standards ?
Request:
I believe there should be room right now for at least 2 Dash discord servers, at least until things get settled, I would urge no-voters to reconsider when it comes Dash nation.
TheDesertLynx (Joel Valenzuela) has personal connections to several proposal submitters and has had conflicts of interest, both in his reporting choices and in his role as a moderator. He has been abusive to critics to the point of harrassment. He suffers from the same syndrome as Drako with the difference between his written and inperson demeanor being night and day. He has an affinity for drama and resorts to public shaming. Dash Force needs to stick to doing what they do best. Which is not battling "trolls". Which is not launching political crusades. Which is not sparring with public figures on Twitter. We are paying for Joel to do this full time? Keep TheDesertLynx away from a keyboard please.
Macrochip is a loose cannon and thinks it is more important to humiliate people with whom he disagrees than to be concerned about the public image of how Dash treats critics, newcomers, and information seekers. Dash was finally moving away from having him in a position where he can wreak his havoc, and the Dash Force founders of the new Dash Talk Discord server went and assigned him moderator privileges. What were you thinking? He has caused one train wreck after another, leaving the cooler heads to do damage control to clean up his messes. He needs to be removed, along with TheDesertLynx. Yesterday.
Updating the proposal with the moderation update was a sneaky way to give Dash Force political ammunition to convince other mno that their actions are officially sanctioned. It was already concerning before this that Dash Force already has a great amount of influence being the official "news" organization in Dash.
On a different subject I would also ask for DashWatch verified traffic stats for the websites discoverdash and dashforcenews.
This team is one of Dashs sacred cows, but they need to clean up their act to stay in mno good graces.
I can confirm that I have felt both a victim of Joel and Marcochip, this makes it hard to start professional, and makes it impossible to use the DFN "dash-talk" Discord server
+it's also very confusion that DFN names there server "Dash Talk" while the Dash nation main channel is called "Dash Talk"
I find it very sneaky that it's called "Dash Talk" a much better name would have been something with the name Dash Force news in the name or something alike. Seeing the start the server and hand picked the mods but what I can tell.
Dash Force News:https://imgur.com/n1hUD4U
Discover Dash: https://imgur.com/QN38vya
"Update: 10-4-18
With the Network's approval we will continue with moderation of the Dashpay Reddit and also help with the Dash.org forums. This will be done under the existing budget and no further funding will be required. We will work with all moderators to create a decentralized committee based moderation system.
We feel it is important that moderation is decentralized amongst many different individuals and organisations and not administered by one centralized person with total control over important Dash communication channels."
Personally, I see this as underhanded, like pork-barrel spending in Congress. It's a bait & switch wherein DF leverages the success of their news platform--of which I've always been an ardent supporter and continue to be--as equivocated support by the DAO for the role of moderation staffing. I see that as dishonest. If Dash Force or others want to take over the role of moderation, then let them make a fair and separate proposal for that purpose. How many times have we criticized other proposals for changing the nature/scope of their proposals mid-stride? It's a shady thing to do.
A lot of the criticisms leveled by this team are also unfair and categorically false. I can recall a number of occasions where aggressive pushes were made to harshly apply moderation rules and constraints to certain community members over others, and in most cases it was members of this faction of moderators that were responsible. In fact, nearly all of the moderation actions beyond deletion of "speculation as fact" statements or posts--especially those resulting in temporary or permanent bans of community members--were initiated by members of this faction of the moderation even if Tao often felt responsible for ultimately carrying them out.
Furthermore, I haven't been impressed with the environment of the new Discord channel moderated by this non-Dash Nation team. It's a toxic, hostile, unprofessional place. I can't imagine anyone but immature, Western, Right-Wing Libertarians finding it welcoming. I'm all for decentralization, but I have no interest in Decentralized Governance By 4Chan.
This "strategy" has put me in the undesirable position of having to consider voting against something I very much enjoy. If Dash Force, et al put this up as a separate proposal, I would not feel conflicted in continuing to support Dash Force News.
If people do not like any part of the proposal they are free to vote the whole thing down. We feel strongly about this issue and that is why we updated the proposal. With plenty of time left to vote this month may I add.
"If Dash Force or others want to take over the role of moderation"
Good news, Dash Force does not want to take over the role of moderation.
You must not have read any of the comments here or are intentionally misrepresenting things.
Please speak to TroyDash as I have been talking to him and he is happy with my explanation of how I see things working between the different teams, tao being the head of your team.
Troy has suggested some wording changes that I may add but I think we have made ourselves clear. You can further follow our conversation on the new Dash Talk Discord.
New Dash Talk Discord Invite link: https://discordapp.com/invite/PXbUxJB
"How many times have we criticized other proposals for changing the nature/scope of their proposals mid-stride?"
Which ones do you speak of? People updated their proposals all the time. I told tao last week (and everyone on reddit) we were going to update the moderation part of the proposal, I guess you missed that?
Once again, if you want centralized control of all the DAO funded/owned communication platforms and don’t want decentralized moderation with cooperation between the teams then change your vote. That is pretty much how things operated for years up until a few months ago when tao started his centralized takeover of everything.
“A lot of the criticisms leveled by this team are also unfair and categorically false.”
Vague, what criticisms do you speak of. You don’t really have to answer that, we can move on instead of going back and forth turning this into any more of a train wreck. I have so many screenshots that we could go on for days, weeks even, but I don’t want that.
“I can recall a number of occasions where aggressive pushes were made to harshly apply moderation rules and constraints to certain community members over others, and in most cases it was members of this faction of moderators that were responsible.”
Can we please stop using derogatory words like “factions” and “splinter factions” and the like.
I think it was just one person tao was mad at, not the whole team, maybe two people close to the end, right before tao’s meltdown and mod purge.
How was I biased in my mod duties? Please post the screenshots and don’t refer to the whole team but rather the person you are speaking of.
Why did you not speak up earlier if you felt that way, you seemed to agree with everything or defer to tao to make decisions. As you know, Tao always made any final decision so not sure why you would blame anyone else. This is really getting ridiculous and i’m only halfway through your post.
“Furthermore, I haven't been impressed with the environment of the new Discord channel moderated by this non-Dash Nation team. It's a toxic, hostile, unprofessional place.”
No, that sounds like tao’s proposal thread here on DC, which I remind you we have not posted in. Also sounds like tao’s anti-Dash Force Reddit rant, or the MNO channel under tao’s rule the last few months as he started his takeover.
Dash Talk is great, troyDash and tao seem to be enjoying it just fine, they are there hanging out everyday, tao is tipping people and making it rain left and right, he seems to be doing that a lot lately, good for him.
We are having a lot of fun there and it’s a great place. It’s already way more active than the other Discord usually is. It really is amazing.
What was very toxic and hostile was the DN Discord. The MNO channel got really bad, which was allowed to fester and get out of hand by the person running the place, who also works another full time job and is not always around to make quick decisions and read everything in context, that is a full time job on its own.
It is sad to see the MNO channel on DN dying, I have never seen it as slow as it has been this last week, besides the max yoga kuva show.
We have not even had time to setup up a MNO channel yet, I’m personally looking forward to it though. First we need to vote on the details, community feedback is welcome.
“I can't imagine anyone but immature, Western, Right-Wing Libertarians finding it welcoming. I'm all for decentralization, but I have no interest in Decentralized Governance By 4Chan.”
Enough with the insults Arthyron, you’re better than that. And you know it is not true. All the same community members are there and people love their new found freedom. I’m having the time of my life posting more than I have in a long time.
Like i said, Tao’s over there everyday all throughout the day bouncing around in various channels, I saw he liked my post in the swarm channel today. Troy and solarguy are over there mixing it up with the boys and we are having a good old time. Jeffh and many of your other fellow mods are there too. Haven’t seen you or max there yet, but everyone is welcome, no special treatment in the Dash Talk Discord though.
As a show of good faith I even gave triptolemoose a personal invite before we made our public ANN. He’s one of the biggest kuva guys there is, someone I may have differences with and may not always vote the same way with but that is ok. He was a mod for around 2 years before tao "unilaterally" banned him, and then "misrepresented" things to the MNO’s about how it was handled, did you miss that on Reddit too?
https://imgur.com/a/5phP3g9
Oh look, troyDash just did a group hug with all the fellas in the thunderdome channel, how sweet.
https://imgur.com/a/2f7Bc5z
-- You know very well that most MNOs don't go back to review already passing proposals, and very few community members want to see DFN impacted. You're basically holding DFN hostage here and banking on the fact that this alteration will be largely overlooked and bolstered by the other services you provide to the network. That's how this is going to work whether or not that was your explicit intent in doing so. It's dubious at best.
"...Dash Force does not want to take over the role of moderation..."
-- I've been reading the comments, and it's still somewhat murky and ambiguous. What it sounds like is the desire for "joint custody after the divorce," so to speak, however those terms were not a part of the previous moderation proposal, and those particular moderators that you're wanting to instate/reinstate/perpetuate (depending on how you view their current status relative to the will of the DAO)--while not explicitly or necessarily Dash Force moderators even though some receive compensation from DF--were not chosen by the DAO or its sanctioned staff. This should be a separate proposal of its own as it's a completely different proposition and in conflict with other proposals. The DAO has no way of coming to consensus here if competing proposals both pass.
"People updated their proposals all the time."
--People don't alter their roles/duties/scope mid-funding cycle to include direct competition with other proposals utilizing the leverage of the votes they accrued from previous iterations. It's not done. It shouldn't be done. It's dishonest. It should be a separate proposal.
"Vague, what criticisms do you speak of."
--"Ban-happy TAO" etc. Apart from spam bots, the only community members who were specifically sought out to be banned and carefully watched for that purpose with that intent were thusly scrutinized by you (TheDesertLynx). I actually consulted TroyDash to confirm whether what I was witnessing was actually occurring or not, and then eventually confronted Tao about it and told him I wasn't going to have any part of the team if it continued. Do you not remember our conversation about "looking for a reason to ban _______?" That was something I was decidedly against, and in every instance favored a lighter touch, but it occurred nonetheless, and in every instance you were the primary driving force keeping track of community members' infractions. Nearly every assertion about Tao's performance or his team by your moderator staff that I've observed on your Discord channel--apart from the claims of centralization and the issue of funding, which have some validity--has been a projection.
"Can we please stop using derogatory words like “factions”
--Nothing derogatory about it, it's clear there are two groups with two narratives. Faction is as literally appropriate as any. Would you prefer "parties" even though they're basically synonymous in this context?
"How was I biased in my mod duties?"
--You routinely zeroed in on people who aggravated you by saying controversial things or stirring up dissension and inequitably applied and counted their infractions against them. Again, remember the "looking for a reason" discussion? Meanwhile, people to whom you were friendly (Macrochip, for example) were routinely overlooked and given numerous mulligans. Both of you engaged in this behavior, and *I* even had to moderate the latter after he lost his moderator status.
"No, that sounds like tao’s..."
--I have no interest in defending Tao either, he can defend himself and will stand or fall on his own merits and actions, but now you're just deflecting.
"Enough with the insults Arthyron, you’re better than that. And you know it is not true."
--I meant what I said and you know that I don't use that kind of invective lightly, as ardent and outspoken a critic as I tend to be. It's why I have no interest in posting there, and apparently you don't have the self-awareness to see what I mean. It's not a place hospitable or welcoming to people outside that very narrow demographic, but to be fair that's par for the course for this space in general. Still, Dash can be better, has been better, and ought to be. I don't want Dash associated with that kind of environment, those kinds of values. Don't take the presence of certain community members as endorsements of your platform.
Tao wasn't the one gunning for triptolemoose and putting checkmarks next to his name and you know it.
Something tells me we don’t have to worry about that. This is one of the most talked about things in Dash for a while now, since kuva. I talked about it last week and told tao (and everyone reading on Reddit) we were updating our moderation part of our proposal. There will be no major changes from how things have been moderated for years.
“Dash Force moderators even though some receive compensation from DF--were not chosen by the DAO or its sanctioned staff.”
I don’t know what you’re talking about. We’ve been helping moderate for years. Nothing changes.
“This should be a separate proposal of its own as it's a completely different proposition and in conflict with other proposals. The DAO has no way of coming to consensus here if competing proposals both pass.”
Maybe, let's see if they both pass. Centralized moderation vs Decentralized moderation.
Until then we will continue with Decentralized Moderation and Tao can hold off on his planned to purge of the mods not controlled and paid by him, deal? Talk to the boss. look like it is just all members of Dash Force he is now saying he wants to purge. Macrochip (Independent) gets to stay, but Albert and solowhizkid and the rest get purged, weird?
The Purge
https://imgur.com/a/so1RiV1
""Ban-happy TAO" etc"
Who said that? That is not my quote, not sure why you would try and put that on me, stop trying to poison the well and create a straw man argument. It's dishonest.
“"Vague, what criticisms do you speak of."
--"Ban-happy TAO" etc. Apart from spam bots, the only community members who were specifically sought out to be banned and carefully watched for that purpose with that intent were thusly scrutinized by you (TheDesertLynx). I actually consulted TroyDash to confirm whether what I was witnessing was actually occurring or not, and then eventually confronted Tao about it and told him I wasn't going to have any part of the team if it continued. Do you not remember our conversation about "looking for a reason to ban _______?" That was something I was decidedly against, and in every instance favored a lighter touch, but it occurred nonetheless, and in every instance you were the primary driving force keeping track of community members' infractions. Nearly every assertion about Tao's performance or his team by your moderator staff that I've observed on your Discord channel--apart from the claims of centralization and the issue of funding, which have some validity--has been a projection.”
That really has little to do with me so i’ll ping Joel (TheDesertLynx). I’m aware of most of the events your are talking about and know your characterization of those events and other things are flawed. Remember what I told you, I/we have the screenshots, i’ve already posted some of them. Dashwatch announced it is now accepting screenshots of censorship if anyone wants to forward it to them. Anyway, Joel is the main person you are talking about here so i’ll see if he wants to respond.
Reddit post and Screenshots
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/9k9ozn/an_official_message_from_the_dash_nation_on/
“"How was I biased in my mod duties?"
--You routinely zeroed in on people who aggravated you by saying controversial things or stirring up dissension and inequitably applied and counted their infractions against them. Again, remember the "looking for a reason" discussion? Meanwhile, people to whom you were friendly (Macrochip, for example) were routinely overlooked and given numerous mulligans. Both of you engaged in this behavior, and *I* even had to moderate the latter after he lost his moderator status.”
All lie's, post the screenshots NOW! This is an outrageous lie and defamation.
“It's not a place hospitable or welcoming to people outside that very narrow demographic, but to be fair that's par for the course for this space in general. Still, Dash can be better”
You're just bitter. And you just insulted a lot of MNO’s, the boss is not going to be happy.
You are trying to say Dash Force are not good Mods and the new Dash Talk Discord is bad.
You want people to believe we are great at the News and Discover Dash and are doing an “ exemplary job” on PR and everything else, but when it comes to Decentralized moderation, they can’t be trusted! LOL
Do you expect anybody to believe anything else you say now.
Exemplary job
https://imgur.com/a/LODCMWR
We’ve been helping moderate Slacks and Discords and reddit etc for years, before your time.
Everyone loves the new Dash Talk Discord including TroyDash and Tao, i’m not kidding, i’m dead serious. I created a channel called the thunderdome where people go to hash out problems. We are working out issues there and having fun while doing it, at least I am. Sure it gets heated but it is what it is and works.
Tao and TroyDash loving the thunderdome
https://imgur.com/32f1XPA
The rest of the Discord is like DN Discord but without all the unnecessary censorship.
Why don’t y’all Open up them mod logs like Dash Talk while you are at it.
A centralized, non transparent Discord, what could go wrong ;)
“Tao wasn't the one gunning for triptolemoose and putting checkmarks next to his name and you know it.”
No. that was me with the thinking_face emoji when that happened, if you go back you will see I did that to a few of his more serious unilateral actions, that was my way of questioning his judgment and trying to avoid verbal conflict. He did not consult anybody and just removed triptolemoose as a mod. I believe that is also the incident where Tao lied or “misrepresented” what happened to the MNO’s when concerns were raised. You have very very poor recollections of a lot of events, here, let me help you out a bit…
thinking_face emoji
https://imgur.com/ZHCrQmE
Misrepresenting events to MNO’s
https://imgur.com/0jJvKYK
The admission
https://imgur.com/aGJv09z
Is it not lost on you that if tao was in control of DC right now we would not be allowed to have this conversation? Both of our comments would be deleted and censored under his SAF rule. Right now he would be preparing to ban us both for life! That scares the hell out of me, for the future of Dash.
Brian, AKA Mastermined
"...There will be no major changes from how things have been moderated for years..."
--Except when the Dash Nation proposal passed, a system was set in motion--even though the DF crew didn't seem to understand the nature of that proposal, though it was plain and uncontroversial to others added by Tao like myself that Tao intended to be in charge and I'm not sure why this wasn't understood by you folks except the assumption that things were going to continue to be as they always had been--wherein moderators were selected. If a particular proposal is sanctioned by the network, and that proposal includes the ability to determine who ought and ought not be a moderator on a particular platform that belongs to the network, then it's not so simple to just assert that things are or will be the same as they always have been.
"... All lie's, post the screenshots NOW! This is an outrageous lie and defamation..."
--Again, Joel/TheDesertLynx and Macrochip primarily, not you specifically, Brian/Mastermined. I rarely ever even saw you or Mark Mason for the most part.
"You're just bitter. And you just insulted a lot of MNO’s, the boss is not going to be happy."
--It has nothing to do with bitterness and everything to do with inclusion and professionalism. An environment in which people are categorically marginalized is not an environment that is not welcoming to those categories of people. If you're going to routinely make light of queer folks or people with PTSD as built-in function of your channel--for example--how is that going to make those sorts of people feel? Is that the kind of environment you want investors and businesses to use as a basis for understanding the Dash community? Dash Talk is DND - SAF rule + Shitposting + 4Chan + questionable moderators. It's no surprise that the vast majority of people who post there fit a very narrow demographic. Meanwhile, whatever beefs you have with Tao--I personally don't care, that's between you folks, I just do the job I was asked to do--Dash Nation Discord has generally been a very welcoming, inclusive, and semi-professional place I'd be glad to show any professional interest as an example of a community I support. I would be glad for the latter to be associated with Dash, but I do not want Dash officially associated with the former.
I don't care if I'm a mod or not, or if any particular platform rises or falls. I'll always do and support what I think is best for the network. I routinely castigate fellow MNOs because I believe it to be necessary for the betterment of the network, so drawing some ire and contempt is nothing new for me.
"You are trying to say Dash Force are not good Mods and the new Dash Talk Discord is bad.
You want people to believe we are great at the News and Discover Dash and are doing an “ exemplary job” on PR and everything else, but when it comes to Decentralized moderation, they can’t be trusted! LOL"
--I fail to see why that's controversial. Some people are good at some things, some people don't have the aptitudes or personality for other things. For example, I've historically worked quite a bit in the Security field. Some people make good bouncers, most don't. You might dispute whether or not any particular person is suitable, but it's pretty clear that not everyone is good at one thing just because they're good at another thing.
That being said, some of the people you have moderating the Dash Talk discord have demonstrated that they are not really cut out for that role, or that they will sometimes misuse that station even if they mostly perform adequately. Either way, I wouldn't want them to be representing Dash in any sanctioned capacity as a moderator.
"Everyone loves the new Dash Talk Discord including TroyDash and Tao"
--Like I said, I read both Discords exhaustively, I know most everything that is said on both channels. Most of what I see is them coming there to argue with people who are making assertions about their character and behavior.
"Why don’t y’all Open up them mod logs like Dash Talk while you are at it. "
--I wouldn't care if this were the case.
"Is it not lost on you that if tao was in control of DC right now we would not be allowed to have this conversation? Both of our comments would be deleted and censored under his SAF rule. Right now he would be preparing to ban us both for life! That scares the hell out of me, for the future of Dash."
--I've always opposed the implementation of DN rules on DC (and Nexus when that drops) because I believe it's important that we're able to slug it out in MNO spaces because too much is at stake and also because the needs and nature of a voting platform are distinct from the needs and nature of a community discussion platform. I do recall Joel/TheDesertLynx very ardently arguing for the implementation of DN rules on DC, though, oddly enough.
As I've said before, I'm always in favor of asking people to amend their comments or when the platform allows the "hiding" of comments over outright deletion, but I generally think the SAF rule is a good one if those solutions are primarily utilized and deletion is rarely used (i.e. in the case of egregious comments like pointless insults, bigotry, etc).
I've never worried about being censored unfairly, and when I have in the past or someone else has been moderated in a way that I believe to be unfair or inaccurately, I have always found Tao or others to be reasonable and fair in hearing out my arguments to the contrary even if I haven't always gotten my desired outcome.
As I said, the only people I've witnessed being permanently banned were ushered in to that state by your boy. I've long been and advocate for--at worst--muting people who can't play nice so they can still have access to and read important information, especially MNOs.
You really expect people to believe that.
I said...
“Please speak to TroyDash as I have been talking to him and he is happy with my explanation of how I see things working between the different teams”
and
“I told tao last week (and everyone on reddit) we were going to update the moderation part of the proposal”
You're saying you missed both of those conversations between me and troy and me and tao. I linked to both of them. No way you were confused about who was responding.
“ I read both Discords exhaustively, I know most everything that is said on both channels.”
Obviously not. You are lying one way or the other.
TroyDash knew exactly who was responding and you did too. How in the world could you miss his comment before your reply.
“TroyDASH 3 points,1 day ago
Mastermined, thanks for taking the time yesterday to help me understand where you're coming from.”
You don’t have anything on me and were just playing dumb so you could bring Joel into the conversation, so you would have someone to attack. MNO’s are not stupid. You have lost all credibility and I will not be responding to you any further.
Brian, AKA Mastermined
--Yes, when have you or anyone else ever known me to lie about anything? I did genuinely believe that it was Joel/TheDesertLynx that was responding, and when you clarified that it was you, how I described you was different from the description of and assertions I made about him. Why would I ascribe two mutually exclusive narratives to your personage?
"You're saying you missed both of those conversations between me and troy and me and tao. I linked to both of them. No way you were confused about who was responding."
--I've read a lot of conversations involving all of you across multiple platforms lately. As qwizzie below corroborates, it's not a far-fetched mistake to make.
" Obviously not. You are lying one way or the other."
--No, I'm not lying. Just because I read them doesn't mean that I was able to piece everything together the way you intended. Even TroyDash who has directly been corresponding with you indicated above that he was still fuzzy on what exactly your intentions were/are. Clearly it's possible for multiple sincere people to not follow your train of thought. I'm many things, but I'm not a liar, and none of the claims I made about Joel/TheDesertLynx reasonably apply to you, but they do apply to him. Also, I had not yet seen/read TroyDash's recent response before composing my response on the same nested level, so his post wasn't informing my understanding at the time.
"You don’t have anything on me and were just playing dumb so you could bring Joel into the conversation, so you would have someone to attack. MNO’s are not stupid. You have lost all credibility and I will not be responding to you any further."
--Now *this* is pure argumentum ad hominem, which is commonly mistaken as a mere personal attack but is actually attacking some feature of a person in lieu of addressing their argument (in this case, my motives). Notice how you do this instead of addressing any of my points as a copout, and then make some vague assertion that everyone disagrees with me. That's dishonest rhetoric. Anyone seeing the pattern here?
If you don't want to answer my questions or address my criticisms that were directed at you and this proposal specifically, that's your prerogative, but recognize the picture this paints for the veracity and legitimacy of your claims, your character as community member, and a reason that this proposal ought not be supported. I've been honest and forthcoming, even when I mistook who I was addressing.
My goal here was not to attack you Brian/Mastermined, but to ensure that Dash Talk and some members of its moderation staff are not officially associated with or sanctioned the DAO, and those were my reasons why. I find them compelling, and I hope other MNOs will as well, especially in light of how you've responded to my criticisms.
Actually i thought that too.
(The first two posts from the DashForce account had no signature, there really was no way of knowing who was posting from that DashForce account)
Why wait 3 days, before informing budget owners that your budget proposal has been changed ?
On the 4th I also updated the main title "Dash Force September - December: Moderation Update"
for all to see and thought that would be enough.
We're not trying to hide anything and i'm a bit insulted by your suggestion that we are. I also talked about a Dash Force moderation update on Reddit last week on one of the most viewed/controversial threads that week.
I ended up voting no.
Maybe things can change but you're not of to a good start.
The Dash Talk Discord has a normal list of rules, we (Decentralized mod committee) are still working through a few finishing touches but they are 95% complete.
I personally don’t have much problem keeping most of the DN rules on Reddit or the Dash Forum. They just need to be applied fairly and consistently, no special treatment. That is where the mod by committee approach comes in handy. That way if someone challenges something then all the mods (DN, DF, Core, Independent mods, etc) have an equal say.
Before, when we had a majority of the mods show support one way a centralized person came in and went against the wishes of the mod team. I posted the screenshot of one such incident on Reddit and have more but would rather not engage in the drama anymore and move on.
The speculation as fact rule seems to be the most contentious one and one that has caused the most upset as it has not been applied fairly in all cases and applied way too strictly IMO, mostly by one person. These concerns were raised by me and others for months but they were dismissed, I have the screenshots.
“opinion base echo chamber like behavior can already be seen in the "dash talk" discord, and these than use to affirm narrative DFN wants to push.”
I really have no idea what you are talking about. Please post screenshots so I can take a look.
The Dash Talk Discord is not a Dash Force owned Discord, we just help out along with some members of the Core team and other independent mods. There is no centralized ruler like on the DN Discord, everyone has an equal say, it is Decentralized in that way.
“On top of that Dash talk seems to be launched in secret, that doesn't sound very decentralized either.”
We were planning to have a big announcement but unfortunately one of our mods leaked the link before we were ready, I was not pleased to say the least.
After that, all hell broke loose as one person took it upon themself to write a public rant attacking all of Dash Force (An apology has since been issued publicly and privately).
Maybe you missed the screenshots I provided last week where we were encouraged to start the new Discord. "I would welcome competing Discords"
We had planned to keep helping moderate the DN Discord for free but we were all banned in one giant purge, others quickly resigned and asked to be removed.
“Maybe things can change but you're not of to a good start.”
I have no idea what you are talking about. Things are going great and we are trying to move on and mind our own business. Others seem to be intent on coming onto our server and starting drama. Go see for yourself. You won’t see any of us going on the DN Discord starting drama.
New Dash Talk Discord Invite link: https://discordapp.com/invite/PXbUxJB
"I personally don’t have much problem keeping most of the DN rules on Reddit or the Dash Forum. They just need to be applied fairly and consistently, no special treatment. That is where the mod by committee approach comes in handy. That way if someone challenges something then all the mods (DN, DF, Core, Independent mods, etc) have an equal say. "
The SAF rule would be one of the only exception. If applied fairly and subjected to a mod by committee approach I think we could make that work or at least give it a try before doing away with it.
It will not work if one centralized person has the final say and goes against the wishes of the majority of the mods.
https://i.imgur.com/R8dz1vD.png
Do you support one centralized person having the final say over moderation on some of the most important Dash communication platforms? That is very dangerous IMO and goes against everything Dash stands for. That's the question we are debating. Decentralized Mod by committee vs centralized control by one person.
The Dash Talk rules will only be for the Dash Talk Discord. The Dash talk Discord is not owned by Dash Force, it is a decentralized community based mod by committee platform. We help out just like we were doing for DN (and other forums) for years. Dash Force does not own or control the Dash Talk Discord.
The DN Discord is owned by tao of satoshi and he can shut it down tomorrow and everything there would be lost. If for example the network voted to remove him as the head of DN Discord and wanted to turn it over to someone else.
Long ago, after an incident on the old DN slack I suggested that since most of the funding for mods and contest and what not came from (Dash Force) the network that it should be a community owned Slack, tao rejected that notion.
I suggested he share the login info with a very well trusted, high ranking member of the Core team who I will not name but who everyone knows and respects. That person saw what was happening and agreed as did most of the mod team, but it was solely rejected by tao.
Instead of revising this budget proposal with regards to moderation (well after it received overwhelming support), and only adding a comment about it two days ago, Dash Force could have choosen to create a seperate polling proposal to let the masternode owners vote on which moderation style to use on Dash Reddit and Dash.org/Forum.
That would have been the correct way to go. Not changing a proposal halfway, when it already got overwhelming support for its orginal text.
All moderators are still free to help moderate just as before, no one will be purged, we just want decentralized moderation, not centralized moderation.
Waiting for your answer to my question.
Why are we debating this now on a budget proposal that was already created a month ago and where most masternode owners already voted on when it excluded the moderation update? Why not poll the network through a new proposal ?
This totally dilutes the vote outcome of your own budget proposal and i just cant understand why you took this route.
Since you refuse to answer my question I will not answer anymore of yours. Have a good day.
Professionalism is very important. It is there for the most part, but please take a moment before posting.
I will be voting no, if I don't see an improvement on all future proposals and will be encouraging fellow MN owners to do the same
Which two articles?
"I find it very distasteful and tarnishes the reputation of Dash for more then me saying fuck on Reddit ever could."
Just so you know, I have no say in the rules on the Dashpay Reddit, Dash.org forums or Dash nation Discord.
However you can produce the same content with less people please cut costs - Voted No
Just kidding, but we going to cut some cost this cycle.
Big YES and big thank you to the whole DF team for all your great work.
The reality is that the combination of charm, wit and intelligence (attractiveness helps a lot too) in a woman will bring more people to the network, including other women.
Amanda was great but we all know she's done making the videos she used to make. The number of people she recruited is outstanding but now we need a new face.
If you find someone like that send her our way. You'll have better luck trying to find a unicorn or spot a mermaid.
If we want the DASH price to start increasing your contributions to this are critical since you are currently one of the most important sources of information for DASH.
I would therefore request that the discoverydash.com website list out the statistics for merchants signed up and break up this information for each country. Give the total number of merchants signed up for that country and the number of new merchants signed up in the past calendar month.
In addition a special page could be set up ranking each of the countries of the world in terms of number of merchant sign up and the numbers of merchants signed up in the month. This will act as an executive summary in one page of this information.
The executive summary would also spark competition between grass roots teams who are currently being funded to sign up merchants and these stats will make them more accountable and therefore spark competitions between teams. Whenever results are publicly displayed and teams are competing for funding they will work harder to get better results which is only good for DASH.
Once this data is publicly available we could have some press releases alerting the World media to this summary merchant sign up page. It will make compelling reading for investors to see real use case merchant uptake of DASH. This will all help to increase the DASH price as big investors can see we are making significant headway to real live user adoption.
If other MNOs want to see this data posted on discoverdash.com please indicate that you want it by putting +1 comments below this comment. We need to increase the DASH price people and this is one way of helping to do that.
We do have some of these numbers as I have seen them but they are not as easy to access as they should be. You also make a great point about competition between teams and I totally agree. DD definitely needs more analytical breakdowns and this is something we can get Albert working on ASAP.
Let me ping Mark and get his input as he is our go to man for Discover Dash.
Just for reference so others reading this are fully aware the DiscoverDash.com homepage has always stated the total number of merchant listings to nearest 100. https://i.imgur.com/pgh9Ssj.png
I do respect and understand the value in having data freely available for all to see. I've always tried to set an example to the network being as transparent with analytics for all of DF projects.
Here is a chart showing total merchant listings since website refresh - https://i.imgur.com/rbN0Ukc.png
It's actually good timing and convenient as for those that follow my twitter account will have recently seen I've been posting number updates frequently but also started to post charts to reflect growth in adoption. So this is something I've been been actively working towards. I just need to incorporate it into the website now. https://twitter.com/StayDashy/status/1029328646618722304
The changes that you're requesting would involve automation and custom development which comes at an extra expense. I have to be honest with you, we don't have this in the budget right now. I'm also afraid this request isn't something that can be done overnight at the flick of a switch. So I don't want to fall in to a trap of making promises I can't keep. I have to be realistic and be honest with the network. However, what I can do in the mean time to accomodate your request to a similar effect is to manually create and upload charts with the data on the website as a work around at no extra expense to the network. I already have a few active conversations ongoing with key developers within the community for improvements.
We have started to put the wheels in motion to get more exposure and acknowledgement for Dash merchant adoption. We have a new dedicated Twitter account for Discover Dash to increase awareness and to also highlight merchants listed on directory adding extra incentive for businesses to register listing on site. I just need to go over some house rules with Albert first so we can keep to a best practice posting methodology to standardize posting delivery. What MNO's can do now that wish to help support this effort is to follow the account to help us get more traction. Thank you in advance. https://twitter.com/DiscoverDash
I would also like to state that we are proactively promoting the merchant directory in particular the rapid rise in adoption and growth in Venezuela via our PR partner and already achieved more media coverage on this particular subject for Dash on a scale that has not been done before. On Monday we had a meeting with our PR Firm to push the excellent Venezuela Dash documentary by Rodrigo from Dash Brazil and also to highlight the merchant adoption numbers on DiscoverDash.com Venezuela among other locations. Over the next week I'll be able to report more information on publication coverage. For previous outreach on this subject please see the PR report. https://www.dashforcenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/PR-Report-July-2018-1.pdf
1)Country 2)Total Merchants 3)Merchants This Month for (X)
X = the previous month.
If the table could have a date next to it saying table last update on (Date goes here) and then next update date due on (Update goes here)
It would then just require one update per month for these 25 top countries. This would be enough and would be tremendous value even like this. Updating the table manually should not take more than half an hour at most if the data is collated in a manner that would facilitate the update.
This process would indeed be manual but would not take too much time each month if you organized a system of data collection and sorting that facilitated this as new merchants came on board. It would just then require updating the numbers in the table once per month e.g. if you had a spreadsheet that you could enter the new signups in. Then just sort by new sign ups and simply enter the data into the table.
A simple table would be informative enough and would give us the progress at a glance without having to look at graphs. We would not need a graph and in fact graphs may not make it so simple to compare progress between countries at a glance or to see at a glance how many new merchants were signed up in the previous month.
A table with countries ranked in order of total merchants however would enable the progress to be seen at a glance and for the competitive spirit to be sparked amongst teams.
This page would most definitely be referenced by investors for a metric on DASH uptake for real world users.
I am aware you post the total updates on the home page however this does not show the rate of uptake which the table would show this data and it does not break up by country - which would spark competition between teams.
Thank you to DFN team for listening and in particular to Mark for offering a part time fix until an automated process can be in place.
I'm happy to now report back that the changes you have suggested have now been implemented on the site.
I've added a new Statistics menu option at top of website. https://i.imgur.com/74nUQsw.png
The Dash Merchant Statistics page is now live at the following URL: https://discoverdash.com/statistics/
There are 3 charts displayed. Monthly Total Listings, Top 10 Locations & Top 10 Categories.
Although on page it states it will be updated on a monthly basis I'll make sure I update it at the end of August so it's fresh moving forward.
Thank you for your support.
3 Amigos Podcast:
You really need to get women onboard. Remove Brian, replace with female.
Continue the interview diversification from outside of dash. Even invite our competitors.
Stop preaching to the choir and make a concerted effort to reach a much broader audience.
LOL, I totally agree. Paging Amanda!!!
I will be doing less and less shows going forward. We may start experimenting with the format a bit and have a guest on for the first 30 minutes to an hour or so and then invite members of the community on. A pre after party if you will.
The show could go on for up to 3 hours like the Joe Rogan podcast. The most important thing would be timestamps and making short highlight clips.
What you are suggesting would be another show or more like a interview were we to invite fluffy pony or tone vays on to debate. The 3 Amigos podcast would be 3 against one which is not a good format for that.
Joel is already going out and reaching a broader audience with plans to do more, Mark is doing that as well when the opportunities present themselves.
Thanks for your support!
I get there's a place for in-depth content, I just think broader appeal should take a higher priority.
I'm confident you guys can do it, I think you just needed a bit of a push.
Love the podcasts (3 Amigos). Love the interviews.
Do you have plans to refresh daahforcenews.com to sort or highlight significant news? As of now, it's an endless stream of sorta-interesting-maybe-nice-to-know-stuff with A FEW EXTREMELY important need-to-know articles every now and then.
Think if a person new to DASH wants to know the most important news in the last 3 months, how would they find it on your site? The reverse chronological listing makes it impractical to sift through and find relevant important info over a long time. Is there another way?
E.g. a lot of news sites have a "top stories" box listing a few headlines for the best stories... It does require work curating but it's something that's sorely needed.
We could start a monthly review article with only the most important highlights of the month and/or a top stories section if we can make it work. That is actually a great idea and I think it would help you and others out a lot.
There is a "trending" link at the top of the page but I personally don't find it very useful. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for your support!
This Week In Dash: August 6-11
https://www.dashforcenews.com/this-week-in-dash-august-6-11/
So for that website alone, I'd vote yes -- but not for $32,000 a month! Vastly, insanely overpriced.
They've created a new PR function outside of Core which the MNOs were begging for. They conduct interviews, events, podcasts, etc. There's a lot of the backroom communications they do to facilitate integrations and outreach as well. Why is is this not obvious?
No one does the Dash network's bidding better than DFN. Name anyone else who does.