Proposal “conf-travel-201609“ (Closed)Back
| Title: | Conference & Travel (Sept) |
| Owner: | babygiraffe |
| One-time payment: | 1044 DASH (22980 USD) |
| Completed payments: | 1 totaling in 1044 DASH (0 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2016-09-05 / 2016-10-20 (added on 2016-08-20) |
| Final voting deadline: | in na |
| Votes: | 1081 Yes / 91 No / 0 Abstain |
Proposal description
This is a cross-post from the Dash Forum
This proposal is to fund Dash’s sponsorship and participation at the 4th annual Latin American Bitcoin & Blockchain Conference (laBITconf) November 4th & 5th in Buenos Aires, Argentina. It will also cover a small amount of additional expenses for the Atlanta Blockchain
presentation.
laBITconf
laBITconf is the premier Bitcoin and blockchain conference in Latin America, and features speakers that are amongst the most prominent participants in the industry. This year’s event features high-quality live streaming, over 400 on-site attendees, and extensive media
coverage. Speakers include Andreas Antonopoulous, Peter Todd, Erik Voorhees, Trace Mayer, Sergio Lerner, and Anthony Di Iorio.
We participated in last year’s conference in Mexico City, and the conference marked the beginning of the dramatic increase in visibility, mindshare and market capitalization that we’ve experienced over the past 9 months. In addition to increased visibility among key investors and digital currency industry participants, we received numerous mentions from other presenters.
Our participation last year consisted of a small exhibit table at the conference –manned by Evan, Daniel and David (Lebubar) – and a slot on one of the panel discussions.
For a better idea of the impact we saw, this video should give you a good sense for the positive response we received at the 2015 conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAuWYq3-Pc
This year, we would like to increase our presence, visibility, and participation in the event dramatically, by becoming a Platinum Sponsor. In addition, Evan Duffield will be presenting one of the main stage speaking slots, rather than being a panelist.
The Platinum Sponsorship package consists of the following:
- The Dash logo appearing on the on-stage banner, which will be in the background of all speeches and live streams
- Platinum Sponsorship logo on the main event webpage
- A booth on the conference floor
- Four VIP passes (valued at $400 each), which includes a private dinner with the other speakers and networking events
We would also send our head of business development – Daniel Diaz – to attend the event to enable him to establish and deepen relationships with potential business partners.
Finally, Daniel has donated use of his Dash ATM to allow us to conduct demos in the Dash booth. We are requesting funding for transport of the ATM to and from the conference to enable this demo.
The estimated costs for our proposed participation in the conference is as follows:
- Platinum Sponsorship package ($7,500 USD)
- Two flights and ground transportation from Phoenix (Evan) and Panama City (Daniel) - ($3,000)
- Dash pamphlets and conference giveaways ($700)
- Transportation of the Dash booth banner (oversized international checked bag fee - $200 round trip)
- Round trip packing and shipping of the Dash ATM ($700)
- Hotel costs – 2 rooms for 4 nights @ $250 per night ($2,000)
Total estimated costs: $14,100
The break-even to the network on this investment would equate to about 0.002 USD / Dash, which we think could be dramatically exceeded through our participation in this conference.
Atlanta Blockchain meeting presentation
In addition, we have encountered higher than estimated costs for the Atlanta Blockchain meeting on August 24th. Flights were not available for the day of the event that arrived in Atlanta with enough leeway to ensure Evan’s timely arrival to the event. Therefore, Evan will need to fly in the day prior to the event, requiring an additional night at a hotel. In addition, the organizer of the event is providing pizza and soda, and we agreed to contribute toward those costs with a 25 Dash donation, in part because they are expecting a dramatically larger turnout than normal. We should be able to handle most of the unanticipated expenses because of the appreciation in Dash’s price, but will need additional funding to cover the 25 Dash food expense.
Requested funding is as follows for the September 4th budget cycle:
Note: Any unused budget will be applied toward future conferences and travel expenses
This proposal is to fund Dash’s sponsorship and participation at the 4th annual Latin American Bitcoin & Blockchain Conference (laBITconf) November 4th & 5th in Buenos Aires, Argentina. It will also cover a small amount of additional expenses for the Atlanta Blockchain
presentation.
laBITconf
laBITconf is the premier Bitcoin and blockchain conference in Latin America, and features speakers that are amongst the most prominent participants in the industry. This year’s event features high-quality live streaming, over 400 on-site attendees, and extensive media
coverage. Speakers include Andreas Antonopoulous, Peter Todd, Erik Voorhees, Trace Mayer, Sergio Lerner, and Anthony Di Iorio.
We participated in last year’s conference in Mexico City, and the conference marked the beginning of the dramatic increase in visibility, mindshare and market capitalization that we’ve experienced over the past 9 months. In addition to increased visibility among key investors and digital currency industry participants, we received numerous mentions from other presenters.
Our participation last year consisted of a small exhibit table at the conference –manned by Evan, Daniel and David (Lebubar) – and a slot on one of the panel discussions.
For a better idea of the impact we saw, this video should give you a good sense for the positive response we received at the 2015 conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAuWYq3-Pc
This year, we would like to increase our presence, visibility, and participation in the event dramatically, by becoming a Platinum Sponsor. In addition, Evan Duffield will be presenting one of the main stage speaking slots, rather than being a panelist.
The Platinum Sponsorship package consists of the following:
- The Dash logo appearing on the on-stage banner, which will be in the background of all speeches and live streams
- Platinum Sponsorship logo on the main event webpage
- A booth on the conference floor
- Four VIP passes (valued at $400 each), which includes a private dinner with the other speakers and networking events
We would also send our head of business development – Daniel Diaz – to attend the event to enable him to establish and deepen relationships with potential business partners.
Finally, Daniel has donated use of his Dash ATM to allow us to conduct demos in the Dash booth. We are requesting funding for transport of the ATM to and from the conference to enable this demo.
The estimated costs for our proposed participation in the conference is as follows:
- Platinum Sponsorship package ($7,500 USD)
- Two flights and ground transportation from Phoenix (Evan) and Panama City (Daniel) - ($3,000)
- Dash pamphlets and conference giveaways ($700)
- Transportation of the Dash booth banner (oversized international checked bag fee - $200 round trip)
- Round trip packing and shipping of the Dash ATM ($700)
- Hotel costs – 2 rooms for 4 nights @ $250 per night ($2,000)
Total estimated costs: $14,100
The break-even to the network on this investment would equate to about 0.002 USD / Dash, which we think could be dramatically exceeded through our participation in this conference.
Atlanta Blockchain meeting presentation
In addition, we have encountered higher than estimated costs for the Atlanta Blockchain meeting on August 24th. Flights were not available for the day of the event that arrived in Atlanta with enough leeway to ensure Evan’s timely arrival to the event. Therefore, Evan will need to fly in the day prior to the event, requiring an additional night at a hotel. In addition, the organizer of the event is providing pizza and soda, and we agreed to contribute toward those costs with a 25 Dash donation, in part because they are expecting a dramatically larger turnout than normal. We should be able to handle most of the unanticipated expenses because of the appreciation in Dash’s price, but will need additional funding to cover the 25 Dash food expense.
Requested funding is as follows for the September 4th budget cycle:
- 1,014.10 Dash ($14,100 USD @ $13.904 per Dash based on August 19th average rate at https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/price-dash.html)
- 25.00 Dash for donation toward Atlanta food expenses
- 5.00 Dash reimbursement for the proposal cost
Note: Any unused budget will be applied toward future conferences and travel expenses
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#2, I watched the Atlanta meetup video today, and although that mic needs to be put higher on the lapel, Pete did an exellent job (2 cameras, awesome!) and Amanda was a great opener along side Evan. I would like this proposal to give the two of them the extra tickets to handle (extra if need be) videotaping and have Amanda do an introduction and interviews and perhaps other creative work (ATM demo, etc...)
#3, If this proposal can't fund Amanda and Pete, then they should add a new proposal. But definitely hold those two tickets for these two at the conference. We NEED them! Thanks!
Just a quick search on cheapair.com (they take btc)
Phoenix flight is $795
Panama City flight is $585
So is the $3000 airfare going donate $1600 E/D? or am I right?
good questions.
The Platinum Sponsorship package consists of the following:
- The Dash logo appearing on the on-stage banner, which will be in the background of all speeches and live streams
**** last time, there was nothing but a big screen. Are you sure they will be a banner that will be seen by people who watch the videos afterwards? How big will it be? Like others, I was pretty disappointed in the "Dash Across America" bus logo. I thin we were told it would take up 1/4 of the rear or something like that. It ended up rather small :/ I just want to know if they're promising something that will be delivered.****
- Platinum Sponsorship logo on the main event webpage - OK
- A booth on the conference floor
****how does this booth differ from the one we had last time? Was it not on the conference floor? I remember it was last minute and small :P Still, how many tables or how many seats across can it hold? Will we have a booth surround? I would hope that we can have at least 4 people there to mind the booth when other things are happening. Perhaps we should hire Amanda and Pete to video tape this as well. ****
- Four VIP passes (valued at $400 each), which includes a private dinner with the other speakers and networking events
****Any word on who else is attending? ***
This is very expensive, and I can see why, with the ATM being imported, etc..., but I just want them to really have our logo in a prominent spot. Also, if you have extra funds, please put up some signs around the lobby :) Like you see with Juan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHklPfmHK_w
As a side note, if the 25 Dash food expense for Atlanta is re-submitted on its own, I'll vote yes. Same goes for Evan and Daniel tabling/speaking at LABitConf. Actually, if Amanda does well speaking in tandem with Evan in Atlanta, she may actually be a better choice than Daniel.
Voting no on the expensive sponsorship.
there is still plenty of money left this month if more developers are needed. we don't want too many cooks in the kitchen as someone pointed out to me months ago when i was complaining about the evo timeline. there is a point of diminishing returns.
from what i have read/heard we now have more devs (two separate teams) and evo is ahead of schedule. i don't know how far ahead but maybe someone could give any update.
plus, a big presence at the conf should attract even more high quality devs and partnerships.
There is no diminishing returns when you don't even have real cryptographers in the team. Charles Hoskinson's company IOHK has many world class experts in that area and they'd be a great asset to make Dash Evolution bullet proof. Instead we are wasting our time on (for the time being) useless conferences.
i agree that the atm proposal is way over budget with the current price rise and should be adjusted to the original fiat price quote when the proposals are reset, if it is not i will raise hell with you. there has definitely been problems and we got stuck with the bill so they owe us. it appears they are mostly on top of it now but i'm still watching it very closely. i'm not happy with the money that has been spent vs results. if they give solid deadlines (the original deadline) and readjust the price i'll be satisfied. so far they have been overpaid and under delivered.
when we need expert cryptographers there is plenty of funds available. this proposal does not affect that.
Labitconf was very good for Dash last year. We definitely need a strong presence there.
How big is this conference compared to the recent d10e in San Fran?
The show promoters would have provided some metrics like the number of attendees and exhibitors for prior years. Please provide a link to those metrics/materials.
What is the cost of this conference compared to the San Fran d10e conference?
the info requested is now posted in the forum thread.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-conference-travel-sept.10303/
The proposal is to pay for attending the conference, but who will be attending is not clearly stated in this proposal. Based on 4 VIP tickets being available, and mention of the 3 who attended last year, plus a suggestion that Daniel Diaz attend this year, the readers are going to assume this pays for FOUR people to attend. However, based on the Dash Slack comments, this is not true. The proposal is for Evan Duffield and Daniel Diaz to attend only. This absolutely needs to be clarified so that people know what they are voting on.
Evan and Daniel
The standard Platinum package included only 2 VIP tickets. Daniel negotiated an additional 2 tickets, which could be provided to business partners or could allow any local Dash community members or those willing to fund their own travel to attend as well. The extra two tickets are just an added bonus. We are not paying for them.
By the way, while the conference is Nov. 4th and 5th, there is a networking event on the 6th (outside of the conference itself) included with the VIP tickets, so technically there are three days of networking.
one way or another it looks like 4 dash people will be there networking so i don't see what the problem is.
solarmine did have some good questions though.